New to pontoons

robntex

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I'm looking at a 19' Sun tracker 2009 model with the same year Mercury 50hp two stroke. I'm wondering what to expect, I'm only interested in fishing and being able to pull the little kids on a tube or something. Would that be enough motor or would it be disappointing?
 

gpfishingdude

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Could you still get new 2 strokes in 2009? I'm no expert on motors so I really don't know. I was just wondering though because they sometimes put brand new, older model motors on the new boats.
 

robntex

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Could you still get new 2 strokes in 2009? I'm no expert on motors so I really don't know. I was just wondering though because they sometimes put brand new, older model motors on the new boats.

I'm not either, far from it. I could be wrong about the year of the motor.
 

The Rooster

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Should probably suit your needs. You won't be exactly tearing up the water, but small kids will have fun. Pre-teens & teens would be bored relatively quickly though. Good luck !!!
 

robntex

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Thanks for the replies, that's kinda what I thought. I didn't think it would be super fast or anything, but I didn't want to be the ridiculously slow guy out there either.
 

MaPaHa

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I would run a calculation using a prop calculator and see where it comes out. You will need the max rpm of the engine, the pitch of the prop and the gear case ratio of the motor. I do mine manual as follows: This example is based on a 5,500 rpm engine with a 1.87 :1 gearbox ratio and an 11-pitch prop. (1 / 1.87=.5347) Sorry I just like math.

5,500 engine rpm x .5347 gearbox ratio = 2,941 prop shaft rpm x 11 inches per rev = 32,351 inches per minute. Then 32,351 / 12 = 2,696 feet per minute x 60 minutes = 161,760 feet per hour / 5,280 = 30.63 mph theoretical speed. The slippage factor is a wild guess but with a basic aluminum prop let’s say it’s 25% loss, which will knock this example down to about 23 mph.

My gut feeling is that this is aggressive math for that boat and you will probably be below 20 mph. At one time I had a 24-foot with an old 85 hp on it and we could barely tube behind it. That boat was long and only had 19” tubes so it didn’t turn well and that’s what you need if the riders get bored with tubing straight behind the boat. I skied behind it once just to say I did but it wasn’t fun. The tubes on the boat you’re looking at are probably larger, it’s a shorter boat and the motor is rated stronger than the old ones so there’s some upside there on all three accounts. You might check the max hp rating and see if there’s any room to grow in the future if it’s a great deal now.

You will have fun fishing and putting around the lake but if you’re tube riders get a little brave and want some action outside the wake, you’re going to have a hard time and probably be disappointed.

If you do buy it there are two relatively easy things you can do besides making sure the motor runs good to get the max out of the boat. 1) Skin the underside of the boat with sheet aluminum so the splash and rolling waves don’t hit the cross joists and slow the boat down in surges. There are several good threads in this forum you can search for on “under skinning”. 2) Get with a good prop shop and select the best prop for the boat. It’s amazing what the right prop will do. I use Power Tech out of Louisiana and they can help with the right pitch as well as getting the right style prop for the boat. You have to order it through one of their dealers once they help with the selection. When you start talking to several dealers about props you will get several opinions and based on my experience most of them are conflicting. These guys Power Tech know what they’re taking about.
 

Lurch77

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Could you still get new 2 strokes in 2009? I'm no expert on motors so I really don't know. I was just wondering though because they sometimes put brand new, older model motors on the new boats.
I have a 2013 2 stroke Mercury OptiMax on my pontoon. 2 strokes are alive and well.
 

MinUph

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Ours is an 18' toon with a 40 HP Honda. The speed is fine. If you want fast it ain't it. But you said fishing and pulling the kids. Can't be better. Low fuel costs and stable platform beats speed for me.
 

MH Hawker

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Prop calculators plain dont work with a pontoon a 50 hp on a 20 foot your looking at around 15 max
 

robntex

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I wonder if it's enough of an improvement to be worth the work involved in "skinning" the cross members. I work with aluminum so it would
seem pretty natural for me to do it, and would it harm the resale value?
 

The Rooster

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Don't think you would gain much in the way of speed, but it certainly wouldn't hurt the resale value.
 

gpfishingdude

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We bought a 18' Sun tracker 91 model with a 1985 Mercury 50- 2 stroke on it, last year, and it will get up to 26 mph, according to the GPS fish finder, and maybe a little more with the wind. We were running into the wind with a 1' chop on lake Stockton last year when the carpet started getting wet at a seam in the decking just aft of the port side gate. I did some underskinning this spring but we haven't had it on big enough lake this year to see how it is going to perform. Besides cutting down on the noise of the waves slapping on the cross members and possibly a little more speed it will help protect your decking if it is underskinned. I posted about the underskinning I did on this forum. I didn't have a metal break for bending or anything so I just did the flat between the toons and in some places there are a couple inches on the sides where it came up short but I think it will be good enough for what I need.
 

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I have a 18' with a 50hp merc & get between 19-21 depending on how many beers are on board,I cruise about 3500rpm ,max is 5500,mine runs like a singer sewing machine but its no speed demon,I took some of the seating off to make it better for fishing & that jumped the rpms up a few hundred so I have to watch the throttle a little closer
 

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Re: New to pontoon

I'm looking at a 19' Sun tracker 2009 model with the same year Mercury 50hp two stroke. I'm wondering what to expect, I'm only interested in fishing and being able to pull the little kids on a tube or something. Would that be enough motor or would it be disappointing?

i had a20 ft with a 115 Johnson she would get up around 30 m.p h ,but with a towable my kids were board ,you can' t turn fast enough to whip the towable around , your steering two boats at the same time , my kids were 13 19 . but for fishing or diving i love it
 

robntex

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Bought it on Sat. went out for a while on Sun, had a great time. I'm not disappointed a bit, fast enough for what I'm doing right now. I love having the extra room. Thanks everyone for the replies.
 

Old Screwball

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Calvinator's chart is right on! I have an 18' Sun Tracker with a 75hp Merc. After experimenting with 3 props, 24.5 mph (gps) is the best it will get. It takes time to get used to the speed and acceleration after the 75 mph screaming mimi we traded in.

Good Luck!
 

gpfishingdude

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I will recheck the speed on the pontoon boat. I could have gotten the speed mixed up with the reading on my other boat. A 16' StarCraft with a 25 h.p. Mercury. If so I am sorry if I got your hopes up.
 

robntex

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Update: I added a Humminbird 999c and according to the gps speed I'm getting around 20 mph max
 
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