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cokeman22

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Sets see I got a 2000 Johnson 250 with a 19p prop I just get about 5000 rpm wot is that enuf
 

jimmbo

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Re: 5000 rpm

Re: 5000 rpm

You are at the bottom of the rpm range(5000-6000) your engine is rated at 5700rpm. What kind of boat is it on? Perhaps you are overpropped, but maybe there is something not right about the engine, or the tach is wrong
 

cokeman22

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Re: 5000 rpm

Re: 5000 rpm

I got a 24' center sea ray laguna about 4000 lbs dry I have a 17p prop too and it goes about 5300-5400 with that but only 30 mph the 19p I pick up some more top end
 

jimmbo

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Re: 5000 rpm

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somethings not right. 5000 rpm with a 19 in prop, even with 15% slip is about 40mph. the 17 at 5400 is also about 40 mph
 

steelespike

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Re: 5000 rpm

Re: 5000 rpm

I think with a 17 you should be turning about 5700 at about 45-47
Does the boat respond to up trim?
Is the bottom clean and smooth?
Is the throttle opening all the way?
All cylinders working?
 

cokeman22

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Re: 5000 rpm

Re: 5000 rpm

I had it at a dealer last year to get a new Vro they said the compression was good . And engine was fine . I don't have trim tabs and that would prob help . N ya the bottom is need for a paint job real bad that was gonna b my next winter project
 

cokeman22

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Re: 5000 rpm

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Can a smooth bottom make that much difference?? Should I go back to the 17p or maybe even 15
 

cokeman22

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Re: 5000 rpm

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One more question that 40-45 mph does that also include xtra weight I always have 4 guys so figure 800# and then 60-80 gal of fuel . N then there's also lots of fish n gear + ice+ drinks+ tools and misc. Junk
 

steelespike

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Re: 5000 rpm

Re: 5000 rpm

A rough bottom isn't going to lose 15 mph but surely contributes to performance loss.
Does it respond to up trim?
Does the boat lay down like it is glued to the water?
Is the throttle opening all the way.
Don't assume because it was gone over that all is right.
A plug wire could have come off. There have been folks that had 2 cylinder motors with a dead cylinder
and didn't realize it but for the loss of power.
Throttle cable out of adjustment.Timing could be set wrong or not advancing as it should.
Link and sync may be wrong.
Fuel delivery may be bad.
Thing is your performance is way off and your running props that at least should let the motor rev freely.
 

cokeman22

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Re: 5000 rpm

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I think I put some wrong #' s up there with the 19p my rps are 5000 at about 38-40 mph wot with a ton of added weight does that sound a little better
 

cokeman22

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Re: 5000 rpm

Re: 5000 rpm

??? Tough to get a simple answer around here 5000 rpms 38-40 mph 19p prop 4000 lbs + another 1500 lbs good or bad
 

steelespike

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Re: 5000 rpm

Re: 5000 rpm

Well its not a simple answer You started with a simple enough question then started adding stipulations.
It appears your at about 5600 lbs. perhaps things are a little more reasonable. I did find a boat at 5100 lbs with a 19" pitch
turning 5550 at 45 mph. You are claiming 5300 with a 17"
I found a 5000 pound boat total weight with a 17" prop turning 5700 at 48 mph.
 

cokeman22

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I'm gonna check the compression tomorrow and double check a few things . How about the engine height I thing my leg is a little low . I got a 30" when I think a 25 would of worked . I put up as high as it goes but still think it could go up another 1" or 2" that's the only other think I can think of
 

Maclin

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Re: tough crowd

Re: tough crowd

I'm thinking verify/fix engine height first, then begin dialing in the prop. Got pics?
 

cokeman22

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Re: tough crowd

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This is my 30" leg compared to my transom I just raised the engine all I could at the beginning of the season . Last year it used to throw a huge rooster tail at high speed but since I raised it up like 3" the wake looks way better


IMAG0806.jpg
 

cokeman22

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Re: tough crowd

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Oof definitely not gonna happen this season . Have to put it on my wish list . And maybe a authorization form th the wife too. So I should leave the prop issue alone n just run it as is for now . What about long term damage ? Is it ok to run like this
 

steelespike

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Re: new problem

If your makling 5000 your probably ok for the season but try to balance weight to help it get on plane and stay on plane easily.
Don't run at just under planed speed nor at barely on plane.
 

cokeman22

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Re: new problem

It's jumps on a plane no problem should I put the 17 p prop on to get to 5300-5400 would that b better
 
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