New guy with trouble: Need help pls

hemijbi

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Hello everyone, new to this site and more importantly new to boats and boating. I just bought my first 14' aluminum fishing boat with a 1965 Evinrude 9.5 Sportwin (?) motor and trailer package. Just wanted something smaller and cheaper to get my two young kinds out fishing with their old man. I bought the entire package for $1250.00 here in Ontario. I saw the motor run when I bought the boat in a pale.

Heres my problem: So I brought the boat home and having a few freinds with boats have done the following. First I checked and cleaned the spark plugs, lots of spark. Then I checked compression, had a little over 65 psi each cyclinder. Changed the bottom end oil and installed a new impeller. Cleaned the filter inside the gas tank.

On the first ride close to home in a very small lake I drove it around for about an hour at all speeds without any problems.

The second time, the motor starts right up and operates normal. At low speed all is well, but once in awhile it start to stumble. If you open the throttle, it tries to die. When this was first happening I noticed the vent was closed on the gas tank and thought that would be it, nope. Still did it the next time out. So I tried squeezing the "primer ball" when this was happening and noticed it had next to no pressure on the ball and when squeezing it I was able to open the throttle.

The next time I took the boat out, the primer ball trick didnt work so well and the stumbling seemed worse. I thought ok maybe the fuel line is bad, but it looks new. the weird part is that when ever it stumbles and sometimes dies right out, it will always start right back up, everytime. I have learned to shut the throttle when it acts up (which is alot, nearly all the time I'm over 1/4 throttle) and ease it back open.

Needless to say, its a real pain in the butt. I dont know if the carb needs to be cleaned or what the heck is going on. I am very mechanicly inclined for atvs/motorcycles but this is my first boat, and I need advise.

Please advise, sorry for the long post.

Thanks HEMIJBI.
 

hidef

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

Could be the fuel pump is going bad and needs a rebuild they are simple to do. When you pump the primer bulb with the engine off does it get firm? If it doesn't it there is a leak some place in the system. The vent on the tank does need to be open while the engine is running. Also make sure the pick-up in the tank is attached properly and there are no leaks there. Finally a carb cleaning probably wouldn't hurt either as well as well as making sure the fuel lines under the cowl are in good shape too. Although you didn't mention it the gas to oil mix for that outboard is 50:1 any two stroke oil with the TC-W3 marker on it will work.
 

hemijbi

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

When I prime the ball it definitly get hard. But I can still squeez it. It never gets right soild. I dont see any leaks anywhere ever. I did check the lines under the cowl and they appear good and havnt collapsed anywhere. I do mix the gas at 50:1 ratio. What pick-up in the tank are you refering too ? There is a black clip thing on the tank (screwed in) and a clear hose attached to that going down into the tank. On that there is a simple strainer/filter.

Thanks hidef
 

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

Yes the hose inside the tank to pick the fuel up from the bottom of the can. If all of that is good then it is either the fuel pump or your carb is dirty or it a combination of the two. Remember the old girl is 44 years old.
 

Art Bernard

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

I think you need a good carb cleaning, what you describe mirriors how my 9.8 was acting when it got some trash in a carb jet.

Art
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

From what you've said, I assume that at times the engine does idle and also runs at full throttle okay. If so, the carburetor is okay in my opinion as carburetor problems do not come and go, they are either bad and stay that way or they're fine.

Your explanation indicates a lack of fuel being supplied to the carburetor. If either of the O Rings in the fuel line snap on connectors are leaking, that would allow the fuel pump to draw air. If no leaks in that area, suspect the fuel pump.... replace it.
 

hemijbi

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

If I open the throttle the motor will die. I have learned to nearly close the throttle when this is about to happen to save it from dying completely. I cannot get full throttle out of the motor. I cant see any leaks anywhere around the hose either.
 
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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

I cant see any leaks anywhere around the hose either.

And you probably wouldn't, even if there were a problem such as Joe described because that's on the suction side of the fuel pump and would be sucking air in.
 

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

Can you borrow and try a known good tank and hose? If it isn't that, I would suspect the fuel pump. Assuming of course that somebody hasn't had the carburetor apart and did something dumb like leave the clip off the float valve.
 

1946Zephyr

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

I would remove the drian plug on the carb and see if junk comes out. Get a can of carb cleaner and stick the nozzle in the drain hole and flush it out. My guess is there is debris blocking the high speed jet. You might also open the low speed jet 1/8 turn and see if that helps it improve. Try what F_R suggested too. A different tank could solve the issue.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: New guy with trouble: Need help pls

Your post #7 indicates a different problem altogether, that of a clogged high speed jet. This jet is located in the bottom center portion of the float chamber..... clean it thoroughly with a piece of single strand steel wire.

Having the engine die out when throttle is applied (assuming the fuel pump is good) is caused by either a clogged high speed jet or having the throttle butterfly open too soon.
 
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