Need Help with strange 7.4mpi problem

Tomtc

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I have a 99 SeaRay with twin 7.4MPI inboards. The port engine just developed a strange problem that I need some help with.

At all RPMs below 4,000, it occasionally starts running VERY rich and power and rpm drops way off. It will do this sometime for just a few seconds and other times for minutes. I have a Floscan and when the problem occurs, the fuel flow will jump way up. For example, at idle it will jump from about 1.2 gph to 5 gph or more. At 2,200 rpm (about the fastest it will run when the problem occurs), it jumps to something like 19gph or more. When the problem occurs, you can smell the strong odor of the unburned fuel. It does this both when the engine is basically cold and when it is fully warmed up.

If above about 4,000 rpm it runs just fine and the problem does not reoccur until I slow back down and the rpm drops.

This weekend, the problem took on a different nature. Now, the opposite is happening. The fuel flow is very low (lean) for the engine speed and load, and the engine is running VERY rough. For example, it is only showing about 5.5gph at 2,500 rpm, about the fastest it will now run under any circumstances. The problem is now also no longer intermittent and is occurring constantly.

Water temp is normal, oil pressure is normal and battery voltage is about 13.8. It did this once before about two years ago and the Mercruiser tech put a scan tool on it and saw no codes. At that time my alternator on that engine was a little weak (about 12.5 volts) and the feeling was that it may be a voltage problem. I replaced the alternator and the problem did in fact go away. However, I am now thinking that it simply cured the symptom not the cause as the current 13.8 volts should be fine I think.

Any idea on what could cause this and what I might look for?

Thanks!
Tom
 
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muc

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Re: Need Help with strange 7.4mpi problem

Might want to hook up a scan tool and see if the efi temp sensor (it?s a different sensor than the one that runs the gauge) is telling the ECM that the engine is cold.
Or if you don?t have access to a scan tool disconnect the efi temp sensor when the problem is occurring (the ECM will set a default value for temp when the sensor is disconnected) and see if the problem changes.
Good Luck Muc
 

Tomtc

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Re: Need Help with strange 7.4mpi problem

Might want to hook up a scan tool and see if the efi temp sensor (it?s a different sensor than the one that runs the gauge) is telling the ECM that the engine is cold.
Or if you don?t have access to a scan tool disconnect the efi temp sensor when the problem is occurring (the ECM will set a default value for temp when the sensor is disconnected) and see if the problem changes.
Good Luck Muc

The problem turned out to be a bad computer. Now all I have to do is try and find a 861720T2 EFI-3...

Thanks for your help!

Tom
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: Need Help with strange 7.4mpi problem

The problem turned out to be a bad computer. Thanks for you help!

Tom

ECM's don't fail very often. You might try plugging the "bad" computer back in and trying it.

Sometimes just reseating the connector will "fix" the problem...


How much did the new computer cost, by the way?
 

Tomtc

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Re: Need Help with strange 7.4mpi problem

ECM's don't fail very often. You might try plugging the "bad" computer back in and trying it.

Sometimes just reseating the connector will "fix" the problem...

Well, the problem followed the suspect computer to the other engine so that is pretty definitive proof. I suspect that the injector driver in the computer went bad...

I'm due for an oil change anyway so in case some gas got by the rings and in to the oil, that should cover that as well. I've been using Quicksilver 25W-40 Synthetic of late..

Tom
 

muc

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Re: Need Help with strange 7.4mpi problem

How very nice to see what the problem was.
Thank You
Good Luck Muc
 
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