need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

[gardenstatesurfer]

i have a '90 v6 4.3L Mercruiser on my bayliner.<br /><br />i think i have a starter problem (getting a click when i turn key)....<br /><br />so far i have:<br /><br />1)replaced the battery<br /><br />2)cleaned battery and terminal connections<br /><br />3)replaced the slave solenoid<br /><br />4)tried jumping both slave and starter solenoids..<br /><br /><br />did above and still getting the "click"...<br /><br />i would like to start removing my starter. its <br /><br />pretty hard to reach and i really dont know where <br /><br />to find the bolts on it.<br /><br /><br />can somebody point me in the right direction with <br /><br />a diagram or something? i dont have a manual...<br /><br /><br />thanks guys!<br /><br />dave

 

[tie_one_on]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

First I'd advide you to get a manual. An original factory manual is preferred but I guess a Clymer or Seloc would be better than none (some may disagee). You should have 2 bolts coming up from the bottom of the starter where it bolts to the bell housing and a bracket with one bolt at the front of the starter (if its original or a "good" mechanic replaced it if the starter was ever serviced in the past). My advice if you attempt this is if the front bracket is there make sure you reinstall it even if it's a PITA, or make sure you get one if yours doesn't have one. Good luck.

 

[Boatin Bob]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

Maybe a silly question but are you sure it's the starter? Do you know for sure the engine or drive isn't locked up? Does the starter try to engage the flywheel. Just asking because sometimes we start down one path and don't consider others.

 

[gardenstatesurfer]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

how would i know if the starter is engaging the flywheel?<br /><br />as of now it just clicks at the slave solenoid....<br /><br />i guess i should pull the plugs and see if its hydrolocked.....

 

[Watercanuck]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

When you turn the key over to ON position without trying to crank the engine does the blower motor work?

 

[gardenstatesurfer]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

the blower works if i have the key on the on position. i really have to hit the button hard though.

 

[gardenstatesurfer]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

trim down has failed also.........

 

[elpaso]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

Pull plugs - turn engine over by hand.<br />Turn by putting a breaker bar on crank shaft <br />bolt. 5/8" socket ?<br />Turn engine to Port.

 

[flashback]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

Hello GSS, Did the engine turn over when you first replaced the battery? when did the trim unit fail? I would check the battery and be sure it has a full charge, bad diodes in the alternator will pull down a new battery in just a short time...

 

[bobder41]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

friend had same problem, after buying new starter and repalcing everything on elec side decided to try to turn buy hand found out drive locked up. try turning crank as other repie stated before replacing starter.<br />bob

 

[gardenstatesurfer]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

guys, i dont thinks its the battery. i replaced the battery and no joy.<br /><br />which way do you rotate the crank? i tried clockwise (with the plugs in) and it seems pretty tight....

 

[Bondo]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

Ayuh,..........<br />Clockwise from the Front of the motor,.......<br /><br />Take the SparkPlugs Out........

 

[gardenstatesurfer]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

ok lets start with the basics.....anybody know what size socket i need to take the plugs out? it seemed like when i tried yesterday i couldnt get one to fit in there without hitting the engine.<br /><br />its a V6 4.3L '90 mercruiser....

 

[Bondo]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

5/8ths"........

 

[jeff13601]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

If its anything like mine wrenches will work better. If its easier take the engine cover off. I think they are 9/16 or 5/8. First thing get down there and get them all a few turns loose

 

[gardenstatesurfer]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

thanks bondo. i'll start there when i get home from work. what are the odds she is locked up if i fogged the engine through the carb at the end of the last season?<br /><br />also-it did turn over once (in about 100 attempts)......still think it could be locked up?

 

[jeff13601]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

Bondo, any chance you might want to go to the casinos. I think I know a way for you to pay your expenses, lol.

 

[jeff13601]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

If it turned over it isnt set up. If it is you are still going to want to salvage the starter

 

[gardenstatesurfer]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

yeah jeff you might have a point on the wrench. seems like i didnt even have enough room to swing the socketwrench.

 

[Bondo]

Re: need help removing starter.....click noise is killing me..

There are Alot of Mechanical Reasons the the Motor,...<br />Or the Drive are Locked Up,........<br /><br />Start with the Easiest Things 1st,....... Pull the SparkPlugs..........<br />The motor,+ drive will turn reasonably hard with the plugs Out,+ it's about Impossible with the plugs In..............<br /><br />If it Still Won't turn with the Sparkplugs Out,......<br />Pull the Drive Next,+ See Which piece Is Locked Up..............