Need help deciding!! Wakeboard boat vs bow rider!?!

fordfamily78

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We are having trouble deciding which way to go! We have three kids (11,13 and 14) so we know they would be into the water sports. We just don’t know if a wakeboard boat would be enjoyable for anything other than pulling tubers/skiing/wakeboarding. Some say the wakeboard boat the ride is kind of rough, but we’ve also heard it’s not so bad. Would we be miserable cruising around in it on a busy day. (Tennessee/inland lakes) For example, we looked at a Chaparrel 257 SSX and a Moomba Max. We really liked both, but don’t know which will be overall more enjoyable. Pros/Cons?? Help!!
 

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Welcome to the forum.
I can't help much here but I see a lot of wake board boats on Watts Bar and most all are bow riders. Other than ballast bladders I don't know what the difference would be.
 

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We had a 1972 18' Caravelle tri-hull bow rider with a 125 Johnson (engine rated HP) with 4 kids. We didn't need more for any kind of water activity and it didn't cost an arm and leg to go to the lake for a days entertainment (or camping out) for the whole family, nor a 3/4 ton PU to pull it. My impression of a wake boat is that its a very expensive to buy and operate, single function boat and restricted to places where your wake doesn't put other boats and persons shore property in harms way.

last time I was out fishing I saw a WB in action. What I said above is what I saw. No thanks
 

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I think once the ballast tanks are empty on 'em they ride well enough: not gonna' be like a tri-hull anyway. There are a couple of boating clubs that you can use one through here in TN: might be worth paying the fee for a couple of months to try one out.
 

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Completely different use cases. Wakeboats are very good at towing, but you have to live with the drawbacks. (inboard engine/drive, poor slow speed maneuverability, deep draught) And yes, wakeboats don't ride as nice as a deeper V, but they aren't entirely bad either.

You mentioned inland lakes... One drawback of a wakeboat is that pulling up to a beach generally doesn't work well with all the running gear.
 

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wakeboard boats, unlike ski boats are designed to give you a big wake. ski boats are designed for a flat wake

bow riders have what ever wake comes from the back of them

wakeboard boats are either inboards or use the VP forward drive which drafts a whole lot more water. this is to keep you from faceplanting into the props when wake surfing

some wakeboard boats such as scarab use a jet drive which is shallow water friendly, however you can suck up weeds and rocks.

if you are not going to wake surf, you will be on a tow rope and the boat end can be anything (wake board boat, couch boat, ski boat, outboard, etc)

ask yourself. what kind of water sports will your kids and you be doing? from there, that will determine the type of wake you need. and from there you determine the type of boat you need.
 

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A little simpler approach here. Not knowing how these kid's interest are going to develop in the next few years, for inland lake use, I'd just get a well maintained inboard ski boat that's several years old. Think a generic/hybrid boat. Pretty easy to find these that have been well maintained, and the price will be reasonable. Many/most will have forward seating available, and they're a nice generic approach to what you want to do. If the interest in wake boarding gets keen enough, and the budget can swing it, THEN get a boat that will handle their demands - when you can justify the extra expense.

No, an inboard ski boat is not at it's best when cruising in the chop, but they're not THAT bad! The beauty of a boat like this is it will get a skier of any size up on top right now - without drowning them while being dragged way too long. That would be typical for a boat that DOES ride nice in a chop, but NOT typical of a boat designed for pulling skiers.
 

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Greetings, @fordfamily78 and welcome to iBoats. (I like Fords) :D

Wake board boat vs. bowrider ???

The wakeboard boats (even ski boats) are special purpose . . . they are designed to do one thing well and may not do other things as well. Bowriders are more general purpose boats and they will do a wider range of things reasonable well.

Price-wise, you may do better with bowriders, since there are more of them and they are not special purpose. So, if you think you'll do a variety of things with your boat (wakeboard, skiing, tubing, cruising, sandbar/beaching) a bowrider will tend to be a better choice IMO.

Outboard motors have become a 'thing' in the boat market, but not sure if you are buying new or used. I/O engines (aka sterndrive) are becoming less popular, but still have their place, particularly if you want to have good access from the stern of the boat. They (I/O's) are not safe for pure wakeboarding, because the propeller would be too close to the wakeboarder (thus the full inboard of 'wakeboard' boats).
 

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I agree that a bowrider would probably be more well rounded. But if watersports are what you’re interested in, then a ski/ wakeboard boat will be hard to beat. We used to cruise around and find a cove to anchor after we got done skiing, and it did that fine. And some of the wakeboard boats are bow riders. But I’ll end with this, my dad and I thought we’d try fishing out of the ski boat one morning after we skied... we only did that once, and only for about 15 minutes before we went in and got in my Jon boat.
 

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...... and restricted to places where your wake doesn't put other boats and persons shore property in harms way.
Wow that's something new.
I've never heard of, or seen a wakeboarder give 2 hoots about other boaters or the natural resources.
 

rallyart

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As a current owner of a wakeboard boat and previous owner of a conventional bowlder I can give you some information from experience. First, some of the 'wake' versions of good bowriders are decent all around boats. The forward facing sterndrive makes them safe for surfing and the hull design and adjustable drive trim gets a bit more top speed, if you like to spend a lot of time maxed out. The forward drive however has a deeper draft than a conventional sterndrive so the argument that you can run shallower than an inboard wake boat does not hold up. Some have good built in ballast to get better wakes and you can always add more ballast to any boat to get the best wave the hull can give you.

With an inboard wake boat you get several other advantages and a couple disadvantages. For a family there are a couple good benefits to the wake boat. The swim deck is right at the water and there is usually no need to use a ladder to reboard when you've been swimming. For my family this is a huge benefit. Also, the boat is slightly bigger inside as the length of the boat does not include the removable swim deck and a bowlder has the drive hanging off the transom which adds to the overall length but adds no interior space. The normal draft of a wake boat is less than a sterndrive so you are generally better in shallow water unless you have trimmed up the drive, which hurts the steering on a conventional bowrider. The wake boat is designed to give smooth flow off the back of the hull so they generally have cleaner wakes for any type of boarding and a benefit to the smoother water flow is that your economy is actually better when running slow or at mid cruising speeds. Above 35 mph the economy is worse as the hull does not lift from the water as much so more wet area adds drag. We tend to cruise at 25-30 as there is less wind and it's quieter. Your use may be different.

Handling of the two types is different. The wake boat will turn much tighter and, when you are used to how it drives, is easier to park if there is no wind or current. You can park or maneuver well if there is wind or current but you need more skill in these conditions. If you like to drive or have some experience an inboard is not problem. If you have difficulty parking anyway a sterndrive bowrider might be better. My wife and kids have easily become experts purring the boat on the dock, even nose out. In rough water some wakevoats can give a more pounding ride. Some however, are excellent in rough water. Mine, a Sanger, is great in any rough water and gives a smoother ride than most bow riders as I can travel slower without the nose riding to high and the hull is very solid. It has a 16° deadrise at the transom. Others have even more but most have less.

I'm never going back to a bowrider but you really need to drive each and see what you think when you are in them. A test drive is really important. Also, most boat owners will think their brand and style is best because they bought it to suit them. Filter any advise with this in mind. Your kids are at a great age to enjoy bing out on the water a great deal. Enjoy.
 
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JASinIL2006

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Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I'd be much more concerned with the size of the boat than with bowrider vs. ski boat vs. wakeboat. Unless your kids become highly proficient or only want to do wakesurfing, any of those boats will be a ton of fun for them. The real key is making sure you have enough room to bring friends along. For us and other boating families we know, that is the key to boating enjoyment.
 

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Wow that's something new.
I've never heard of, or seen a wakeboarder give 2 hoots about other boaters or the natural resources.
Well if Barney (the deputy on the Andy Griffith show years ago) catches you, or a land owner reports you or you sink a kayak or small fishing boat who is deliberately fishing protected waters due to boat size and reports you...........

In Texas YOU are responsible for your wake!
 
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