need assistance troubleshooting v4 crossflow combustion problem using spark plugs

ryguy1101

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Re: need assistance troubleshooting v4 crossflow combustion problem using spark plugs

DWC - good to know. I already rebuild this one once and had it honed true but not oversized, so the rings/pistons were just a tiny bit sloppy when I installed them....slightly reduced compression accordingly.
AlTn - already did the swap of coil wires, coils, pack wires, and power packs each in separate stages. Unfortunately, the problem stayed with the cylinder.
Will - I assumed as much but it was the ONLY part of the entire system that has remained constant while I swapped and tested all the other components. Just finished testing both sides of kill/stop circuit with no luck as you suspected.

NEW INFO - manual says charge coil (stator) should produce about 170V through the brown & brown/yellow wires during operation. However, when testing the charge with my voltmeter exactly as described in the manual, I'm only getting about 75V!! I've tested resistance on all the stators I have (4), and all passed the resistance tests at approximately 550 Ohms per side. Have just finished swapping to my 3rd stator and the charge is staying 75V. I also swapped flywheels to see if for some reason I had magnet issues, but no luck. What on earth could be making all of my stators read so low? My batter charge is pretty good and I'm getting decent RPM on flywheel. Should I run the same test while the engine is running on the right cylinder bank to make sure battery and flywheel RPM arent the reason for the reduced charge?

Also tested resistance on the Power Packs as instructed. Diodes in both packs test good. However, I'm having trouble getting ANY charge readout in the wires connecting the packs to the coils even when performing the test per instructions. Could the weak stator charge be the culprit? I just can't understand why only #4 cylinder would be affected by a weak charge from the stator. Would think stator issues should affect all cylinders unless the problem is specific to one of the brown wires.
 

dwco5051

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Re: need assistance troubleshooting v4 crossflow combustion problem using spark plugs

To read the voltage to the coils requires a peak reading voltmeter. Some regular voltmeters will take an adpater to read peak DC voltage. The low readings you got may be because of using a regular voltmeter.
 

AlTn

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Re: need assistance troubleshooting v4 crossflow combustion problem using spark plugs

a meter capable of reading dva or a dva adapter for you current meter is really necessary...your methods are on the mark though..voltage into the pack for each cylinder and voltage out of the pack for each coil
 

Faztbullet

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Re: need assistance troubleshooting v4 crossflow combustion problem using spark plugs

Get a DVA adapter and retest but a bad coil can damage the pack, and pack could have a defective switching component restricting voltage from internal capacitor to the coil. Just a note a coil can ohm good and till be bad...
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: need assistance troubleshooting v4 crossflow combustion problem using spark plugs

Unlikely a weak stator. As you said, it should affect all cyls at some point. You should be able to perform a simple ignition test. That engine is one of the last years that OMC made dual (identical) power packs. Swap them out and see what happens on #4 cyl. If nothing changes, check out the timer base. Run it at night outdoors in dim light. Visually check to see that no spark is jumping (grounding) from the coil wires to the cowling latch or going to ground on the block.
 
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