Near new old 1996 Mercury 115

racerone

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With older motor many mechanics will know what is wrong with an accurate description by owner.-----And you can look at many of the parts to see what is broken.----With these modern " fly by wire " motors you have to study the manual.-----My 2011 truck was in the shop for a week to determine that a computer related glitch prevented the power window from going down.
 

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I was at an estate auction this past weekend, I went because they advertised a bunch of woodworking tools and fishing gear.
There was a 90's era Mercury 115 on a pallet, it looked okay but the auctioneer said its condition was unknown and that it was found 'out back' in one of the outbuildings laying on its side covered in a tarp. The cover was off, three spark plugs were broken off, and the power tilt was fully extended. The flywheel turned and made a complete revolution with what seemed to be decent compression. I wasn't interested since I didn't need that size motor for anything, but when it came up for bid, they started the bidding at $1500, but got no takers, then someone jumped in at $200. In seconds it was already up to $2000, and it sold for $2,750. There was no way to check compression, there was no way to start it, and the power tilt unit was likely stuck in the up position, plus there were a few missing parts, some rotten wires, and the thing had obviously been sitting neglected for a long time as there were vines growing through the steering bracket and around the prop, as if it had spent a long time outdoors on the ground at some point.
In my mind, that tells me it was a motor someone gave up on. Something went wrong that made them retire it. That could have been as simple as the tilt motor going bad, or it could well be something far more serious. There's no way I'd take a $2,750 gamble like that.
With all that in mind, there was a 1996 Mercury 90hp on FB listed for $4499, it was only up for a couple of days before it was marked sold and soon after removed. That motor was listed as not having run in 10 years and with compression readings ranging from 75 to 143 psi.

I think what's going on is that people who had bought four strokes are starting to realize that they're expensive to repair and maintain when they get old. They seem to be seeking out the older tried and true 2 stroke motors.

On a smaller scale, a few months ago I picked up a second 14ft aluminum boat, which came with a running 15hp Johnson on it. I bought the boat because its the exact same hull as one of my boats here and I wanted to set one up for running the upper river here. My original boat has a very typical 9.9hp Mercury four stroke from 1999 on it. It runs good, and I've owned it since new. It starts easy, is pretty easy to work on, and it gets me there. But its slow, it will not get a 14ft boat and me on plane, its a 7 mph rig at best.
I took the 15hp two stroke boat out this morning, it started in three pulls, everything is as I found it, (the guy was using it when I found it).
While I know this is comparing a 15hp to a 9.9hp, the difference is beyond night and day. The 15hp, moves that 14ft Starcraft along at just over 21 mph on the gps and gets it on plane almost instantly. The 15hp is lighter, faster, and starts almost as easy. Its not as quiet, and not as good on gas. It burned roughly double the fuel that the 9.9hp 4 stroke motor burned in the same distance. I've had 9.9 and 15hp OMC motors before, the difference between the two is basically just top speed, with the 9.9 pulling a bit harder down low than the 15hp. I figured I'd be topping out at about 18 or 19 mph if it were a 9.9 vs. a 15hp.
When I got home, I pulled the 15hp off that boat and hung a mid 80's 35hp Evinrude I had here, which will be its permanent motor.
I have a guy coming for the 15hp tomorrow for $1,500 cash.

I picked up a 9.9hp Honda, a 2004 model tonight off CL for $200, its got good compression, but the guy tried to rebuild the carb himself and screwed it up. I never had a newer Honda but I ordered a new carb and linkage online for it as well as a new water pump and some spare spark plugs.
 

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See-----Possibly $2750 for a $275 parts motor.-----Prices are all over the map these days.
 

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More states are legalizing drugs these days. That is the only explanation I can come up with, as those people must have been high.
 

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The fact is that folks are paying.----Was at a boat dealer last week.-----No new boats or used boats available at this time.-----Folks are putting their name on a list for next year's model.-----They do not know the list price for next year.----Does not seem to matter !!
 

ryan 98

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I don't know about American markets on these things. But up here in Canada clean older motors are worth something. I get about 1200 bucks for any old 70s or 80s omc 3 cylinder I've sold. And they go quick. I've also personally seen a bunch of mint 9.9s from as far back as the late 80s go for 1500 bucks. Now that one is crazy money. I would think if it's truly in new condition it's worth posting it high. I don't think you could buy a well used one of those motors here for under 2500 bucks online. Of course you can get a deal finding them word of mouth like I usually do. I'd post it high, make sure you give it a good clean and get the dust off it and I bet you make back a good chunk of what you paid new
 

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List it for $5000 or more .----Lots of buyers out there today.----Good " used " motors are scarce in some areas.-----Take pictures of it and put it on craiglist / facebook / local bulletin board.

$5K is ridiculous. I realize that especially clean outboards of any year will command high prices (especially 2-stroke), but listing it with such a ludicrous price is just going to keep many people from even making an offer on it. Nothing wrong with setting the price higher than its value, though. If it were mine I’d list it for $3500.
 

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Just like real estate.-----You only need one customer !-----Not ridiculous at all.-----People pay $10,000 or more for diamonds / paintings etc and that is ridiculous !
 

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While this isn't really the same thing, I was out on a local river fishing a couple of days ago with a super clean older Mercury 400 (40hp twin), on the back of an old Starcraft SS I picked up last fall for cheap.
I was anchored up with some lines out and had a guy motor up to me and ask how my motor ran. I told him it was like a brand new 1971 motor. (I had bought it in Missouri two years ago at an estate auction I happened upon one weekend there. I paid $130 for it. I brought it home in the cab of my truck strapped to the back of the passenger seat.

I gave it a new impeller, cleaned the carb, and it ran perfect. I change the lower unit oil, tossed in some plugs and hung it on my boat.

The guy who was asking had a newer 4 stroke Honda on his boat and it looked like the motor was way too heavy for the old 1960's era glass boat he had.

He kept on about how clean it was, then he asked if I'd sell it. I told him I can't sell it, I need it for my boat. He then made the offer of a trade. Me, worried there must be something wrong with the Honda he's running, wasn't really interested. He then offered me a test drive right then and there. So i took his boat a few miles up the river and back, it ran great but was way too heavy in the stern. I gave him my phone number and told him to call me.

This morning, we traded motors, along with some cash. I took his 40hp Honda four stroke and $1,200 cash, for my minty clean Mercury 400 two stroke.

I didn't really want a two stroke, and its a bit heavy for my boat too, but its perfect for my 16ft boat. I've got a perfectly good 35hp Johnson for the other boat. (I was just giving the Merc a test run when it sold, I hadn't intended to leave it on that boat anyway).

Guys are going nuts looking for good two stroke motors, most have realized that the added weight, added cost, and expensive repairs of a four stroke just aren't worth it and often not an option for an older boat.
 
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