my first boat 1962 mfg

stretch8668

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hi im new to forum and am going to try to bring my grandfathers boat back to life here are some pics and questions. I am gonna put four seats in it with swivels and 13" pedestals.the motor is a 1962 evinrude lark 4 that hasnt been run in at least four years and i believe is the original motor.i have to buy seats, gas tank( what size?) and a battery for it plus i wanna have the motor gone threw (i kno it works its just been sitting and a screw popped out somewhere). does anyone know how i can get the stains out of the inside of it ( it sat next to a tree line for four years uncovered). may have more questions but these are only ones coming to mind. thank you

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stretch8668

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Re: my first boat 1962 mfg

some more pics and where can i get the pulleys and cable for the steering

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Woodonglass

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Welcome to iBoats!

I have the exact motor on my boat. Check out my Flamingo link below.
Wash to inside of the boat with Bleach and then scrub her down with Acetone. I doubt you'll get the stains out so you'll have to re-gelcoat her or Paint her. My thread has lots of good info on the things you will need to do to bring her and the motor back to their original selves. You'll enjoy it!!!!

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Jon Sob

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Hi stretch ...... Welcome to iboats. It's good to see another MFG brought back to life. Post lots of photos and ask a lot of questions and it will be done before you know it. Good luck.
 

kfa4303

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Sweet rig Stretch. You're in the right place. Here's a link to a site where you can get all the cable and pulley steering hardware and a link to show a couple ways to hook it up. Some folks convert to more modern steering systems, while others do not. It's up to you.

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/hardware/steering/01/index.htm
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=281025&highlight=drum+steering
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/columns/max/04/part1.htm
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/03/columns/max/05/part2.htm

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/04/s/columns/max/24/index.cfm
 

stretch8668

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thanks for the link on the pulleys i wanna keep it original cept the seats. what size battery does it take and what size gas tank would be good for it.
 

oops!

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for the battery. a good size marine deep cell is fine......dont go overboard here.....you are not starting a diesel truck.

as for the tank.....carry on tanks range from huge to little......just depends on how far you want to go !

btw.......great boat......fantistic reason for a restoration.

i think you will like working on it......restoring one of the 60/s type boats is very easy compaired to todays complex structures.

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Welcome Stretch8668 ! Great looking MFG .If its like my 64 you lucked out because it should have all fiberglass stringers and floor decking. It also looks like you got the mfg emblems still there and the original steering wheel! Your grandfather should be proud of you bringing her back in shape!
Good luck!S.P.
 

stretch8668

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thanx for the compliment sphelps and is it a rareity to have the original emblems and steering wheel and what do you mean 'i lucked out with the fiberglass stringers and decking'.unfortantly my grandfather passed in 03 then my parents had it then they split and dad took it. but yes he would be proud of me and im gonna name her after him. would a 15 or 18 gallon tank surffice or about how long would gas last if i have gotten a gas tank this size. sorry for all the questions like i said its my first boat and im never around them so im learning as i go.
 

stretch8668

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and from the research ive gathered with it being a 14 foot would this make it a nigara cause i have no way of knowing
 

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Is there a aluminum model ID plate anywhere ? Mine says edinboro right on it. It may be a niagra . You should start a thread on the MFG forum here there are guys that can help out with the ID . But keep your thread here for the restore.There were some years that mfg made the stringers and deck out of fiberglass only that means theres no wood under the floor to rot out!:cool: The only wood was in the transom. Does the floor seem solid with no mushy or weak spots ? If not check the transom out .If you have any doubt of it's strength you should take a 1/4 inch drill bit and drill some holes down low along the bottom of the transom. Drill thru the inside skin but not all the way thru to the outside. Look at the shavings .If they are good and dry you are probably OK . If they are dark wet and mushy then you will need to replace the transom. But don't worry the guys here can guide you thru all the steps involved .
If you dont plan on staying out all day riding around then 1- 6 gallon tank should be ok Just make sure you save half your fuel to git back to the ramp!:eek: :D
 

stretch8668

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What is a good way of cleaning the winshield cause its foggy, I've heard of useing headlight restore stuff and someone used turtle wax with good results
 

stretch8668

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i found the aluminium tag on boat it says mfg and under that reads 1462-1395. the 14 is how many feet and 62 for the year but what is the 1395 the serial number or is the whole thing the serial number. i ended up useing maquires plastx on the windshield it came out realy goodwindow before.jpgwindow after.jpg and i also found out that im gonna have to replace the cables that go from the motor to the controls up front cause there cracked and steel is rotted and broken in some spots where can i get these from. i also checked the transform (didnt drill in it though) and it seemed solid and i also think it had been done before cause can see on out side where a hole had been and filled in and on the inside of it it looks like someone put some gray bondo type stuff on it what do you guys think.
 

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Hey Stretch ..

I thought my 61 Oxford was solid at first. Then I clamped on my 8 hp for a test. The motor clamps clearly were crushing the transom. I couldn't really tighten it.

I drilled 1/4 holes at the bottom outside transom. Water began to drip immediately. It dripped for days. I realized I'd have to dig deeper.
Long story short I removed the top seal of the transom and the wood inside was mush! No saving it.

See my thread below to see how I tackled it. It's a pain but worth it.

Good luck!
 

stretch8668

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nice job with the oxford is there any other way to find the condition of the transom or do i just have to drill some holes near the bottom. i have the original 40hp evinrude lark 4 that the boat came with in the 60s and its not crushing it or even any movement in it. i even hit the back of it a few times with my hand and i held the motor and pushed back and forth on it and the boat and trailer were moving and i didnt notice any deflection in it.all in all i just wanna make sure its safe before i put it on water.
 

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Just looking back at one of your pics of the motor it almost looks like a fresh paint line at the corner of the transom . Maybe it was repaired once and still good . If you have the motor off Maybe take the aluminum cap off the transom and inspect the wood if it's not glassed over.
Just a thought.
 

stretch8668

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thanx for the info and good eye on paint line ive never noticed it before. ill have to check it out if i take motor off or just drill few hole on bottom.
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

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The simplest check is to remove the 2 lifting eyes in the transom and poke around and visually check. See if you see "clean" wood or brown rot.
As was said previously, you could remove the aluminum trim cap on the transom and drill through the seal. My seal was tough stuff.

Knowing what I do from my project I would do this to check it out:

Assuming the engine is off, remove the aluminum "cap" or trim and using a 7/8" fly cutter (wood boring) bit drill several holes through the seal ... my seal was about 1/8" thick. I would make one hole on each side of where the motor mounts. Drill the seal just enough to get to the wood. Poke around the the wood and see if it's wet, brown, stinky and or rotten. If you find nice solid, clean looking wood I would simply make a batch of thickened epoxy and seal it back up.

If you find something that makes you suspicious, I would drill several more holes across the top and poke around and see what you can find.

If the news isn't good, here is the easiest way to remove the top seal without damage. Use a sabre saw and a sharp, medium tooth wood cutting blade that has been shortened so that the "down" stroke penetration is only about half an inch. (I shortened mine with an angle grinder.) Make a 3/8" hole at the edge of the seal without hitting the inner or outer transom skins, insert saw and carefully cut along the inner surfaces or the two skins. Some hand work may be required at the ends.

Now you have full access to the inner transom. Poke, sniff, drill and decide if it is solid or not. If you turn out lucky, re-seal the the top with epoxy thickened with cab-o-sil or something like it and you are good to go. The best part of this is you will remove any nagging thoughts about your transom. If it's good, ... it's GOOD!

If replacement is called for, re-read my whole thread. Niagaras are not that different from Oxfords. Remove the outer skin using the same short blade. Be sure to leave 2 inches of the outer skin at the edges.

It's not a bad job but expect to put 20 + hours (depending on your skills) and $150.00 worth of plywood and epoxy plus finishing materials. When you're done your boat will be better than new!

You must decide if you have the skill, tools and resources to tackle an job like this. I'd sure hate to see you disable your boat and get "stuck". Perhaps you should just investigate and unless the transom is terrible (like mine was) put the job on the back burner. Do some of the smaller jobs and build your confidence. Most importantly ... use and ENJOY your boat. If you must, disable it in the off-season when you can take your time on difficult repairs.

Why not start a thread on the MFG forum? Lots of help & info there.

Good luck! Looking forward to seeing your progress!
 
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