My Chieftan project

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Weep'n Willy

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Ok, why is it winter before it is fall?? Geeze, been awful cold out so had to winterize the glasser. Didn't want to freeze the block before I sold her..... started taking all my gear off of her so it will be ready to install on the Chief. Electronics off, downriggers off, planer mast out, still got some rods and tackle boxes to get out yet but will do that this weekend. I know we believe that boats cost a lot to own and run but I have to say as being an avid, ok, a fanatic when it comes to fishing the Great Lakes, I believe I have way more cost in fishing gear and electronics than I do in the boats.

Anyways, a few more pics of earlier progress that I have made. Almost all the flooring removed, even the piece seen in this pic before the seating/storage removed.

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Removed the ceiling in the cabin area, not good looking and a bit warped from water dripping on it from where the gps antenna is installed, wasn't properly sealed. Boat came with a Garmin GPS and external antenna so I will remove the antenna and the unit and put it up for sale. More money to fix the boat up with and esides, I like my chartplotter better and my antenna is not as bulky as the one that is with the Garmin.

While looking around and removing panels this site really disturbs me. Open wires!! There is a proper way to wire things and this is not one of them. Connectors and shrink wrap are my favorites. Open wires can and will lead to shorting out and fires.

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I take no chances with possible electrical fires on a boat. Unfortunately in the early 80's I lost a boat on my way home from fishing in the Keewenaw. The battery had jarred loose and grounded against the hull. I was only a couple miles from home when I seen the smoke and pulled her over. Threw out the gas tank, grabbed what I could, unhooked her and watched it burn and melt the aluminum hull. Maybe I can scan a pic of that poor boat and post it. Was a sad day. Boat was a total loss. So please, make sure all your wiring is as safe as can be.

Oh yea, and I did rip out all that yellow fluffy carpet that was all over the cabin interior. Eeeww.


Couple weeks ago my buddy brought over the new transom. He has access to a wood shop and they cut and bonded the new aluminum safe marine plywood. We slid her into place with a bit of sanding and got her sitting in there nicely. Did the finish sanding/shaping of the top of it to conform with the aluminum. Back to the wood shop it went to finish cutting out the outdrive hole and then the sealing coats. Sure looks good.

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Hey, and don't that hull look all nice and shiny again!!! The Hotsy Power washer did the trick.


I did get a look at the new cabin walls. Made from mahogany. Wow, looks sharp. Sorry no pics yet at they have to be sealed as well. Although the wood cost a bit ya just can't gripe about someone helping out with their skills at not cost!! It certainly helps keep the cost down and allows a bit to be spent on the nice items that I normally wouldn't buy.
 

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Are those 5.3x12 tires on that trailer?
Good looking project, the 24' Cheif's look like they just stretched a 21'.
From the pictures the boat looks the same width, just added 3' of fishing room in the back.
Which would be very nice to have and that pesky 22' bar restriction would be a thing of the past.
I am keeping my eye out for a cheap 24-26' Starcraft to hopefully rebuild and but twin outboards on it someday.
the little 4 banger will give you good fuel mileage and troll for hours on little fuel.
 

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Yes, that is the tire size on the trailer. Not a big fan of the trailer and will be looking for a replacement. I prefer them with the full size tires and a low profile, makes them easier to launch when the water levels drop. I do like the 4 bangers. I can troll all day on 10 gals with my Thompson so I expect the same with the Chief. It will haul me plenty fast enough to get me to and back from my fishing spots.

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Besides, speed doesn't help on days like these! :)
 

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Thought I would share a couple pics of the rugged beauty of my favorite fishing port yesterday with the effects of the storm. This is Pt Sanilac on the lower side of Lake Huron.

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Certainly not a good day to be out on the lake :)
 

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One real good mod I like on my 21' cheif is I modified the door so it swings into the cabin. That way you can leave the cabin door open while fishing. I have a big ice chest sitting on a removable shelf right inside the cabin were the sink used to be. Got rid of the sink and water tank. I too basically rebuilt the inside of the boat. New floor, new cabin wall, new transom, and lots of other work.
 

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One real good mod I like on my 21' cheif is I modified the door so it swings into the cabin. That way you can leave the cabin door open while fishing. I have a big ice chest sitting on a removable shelf right inside the cabin were the sink used to be. Got rid of the sink and water tank. I too basically rebuilt the inside of the boat. New floor, new cabin wall, new transom, and lots of other work.

Still have not yet completely decided on the inside of the cabin, but plan on making a cabinet with counter top. The cabinet would be used to put the smaller food and beverage cooler in and the top would be there so the wife could put together the lunches. On the side where the sink use to be will put up a couple walls for the head. Not sure yet what to do with the big fish cooler. Ideally if I had under floor fuel cell I could put the cooler under the passenger side seat boxes where the fuel tanks were and would be able to slide it in and out. Would like a good under floor fuel tank but would probably have to elevate the floor to accommodate it. Then the seat boxes I make could be utilized to put all my tackle boxes in. Maybe I will have to settle for a cooler platform off the stern. Decisions, decisions, decisions.
 

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I have fished in mine for now 6 years, 21' chief. I too would like an underfloor fuel tank, but my twin 16 gallon tanks sit on top of the floor. Fish box in cabin was the only option. Big fish box on Stern I personally would not like, get in the way and add too much weight in the rear, I typically have a guy in the cabin and no one in the stern to get the boat level at 10-20 mph speeds, which is typical for rough water is 5-14 mph.
Many times I end up netting the salmon at the stern to prevent line tangles, the kicker motor is sometimes bad enough.
I have no room on the stern, I like my fold down seats and storage under the seats. fuel tanks are below on top of the floor. My fish box has a drain so I can flush cold sea water on my catch, used the existing sink drain for the fish box drain, use a couple quick connect garden hose connections and retrofitted the fish box with a ball valve.
 

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Weep'n Willy

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Thanks for the pics. On my Thompson I run 4 4' downriggers plus 1 wire diver rod on each side.

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Doesn't leave me a lot of room to net down the chute and truthfully I don't like netting a salmon in the chute on the wire divers just in case one makes a dive near the prop. With the corner riggers on swivel bases I usually will swing one out of the way and net the fish on the back corner of the boat so with the cooler on the stern it really wouldn't be an issue with that. Now the extra weight on the stern, well now that would be another issue.
 

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Great idea with the seat pedestals!
 

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After reading a couple other threads I guess I should have put in some pics on prepping for the transom removal. Seems there have been some questions on the top plate removal. This is the way I did it and by no means may be the best way but it certainly worked for me.

I started by removing the rear rub rail, then drilled out all visible rivets holding the top plate. I then undid the side rub rails up a couple feet so I could pull it away from the boat and expose the remaining rivets on the top plate. Then removed the top plate.

Once done the side rail was still in the way of removing the transom, so there I took my trusty jig saw and cut out a rectangular piece to enable transom removal. This will be welded back in place once I install the new transom.

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This pic shows the top plate removed, and side rub rail pulled away.

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This pic shows the section that I cut out with the jig saw. (red rectangular box)
 

jasoutside

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Here's a couple shots for ya...

On the way out:
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And getting ready to go back in:
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Weep'n Willy

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Jas, correct me if I am wrong, but on your Islander it appears that the side rail ends where your top plate begins. Thus when you lifted the top plate you had room for removal. On my Chief, the side rail runs all the way back and over the transom. Once I removed the top plate the side rail was still over the transom thus necessitating the cut away. Maybe I should get a couple more pics to show it better.


Ok got some more pics.

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This pic shows me holding the piece that I cut out in place. Note the side rail runs all the way to the transom and the top of it is completely over it.

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This pic shows with the piece removed the transom slot is now open.

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Rear view.


Jas, I can only think that your top plate and side rails are different than that on this Chief ? ? ?
 

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Nope, the side rub rail runs all the way back. You can see where I wedged it out with a screwdriver in that last shot up there ^^^.

Unless you are talking about the gunwale deck? I'm pretty sure that runs a few inches back and is riveted into the stern alum skin deck.

Either way, you can see that I was able to just peel/flex up that stern deck to slide that transom in/out.

Maybe you guys have a different design eh?
 

Weep'n Willy

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:) :) Yes Jas, I think we have two different designs. Would like to see a pic under your top plate showing the back corners on your Islander.
 

jasoutside

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Ah, now I see:thumb:

Yah, your inner gunwale runs all the way to stern whereas mine stops short enabling the stern skin to flex.

The only other option might have been for you to cut that last 12" or so of inner gunwale to get yours to flex.

OK, since you and I have totally hijacked two separate threads, what's your favorite pizza topping:eagerness:
 
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