Morse gear shift is sticky in dual station

skipjack27

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I've got a 27' cabin cruiser powered by a single 200hp Volvo Penta and Duoprop sterndrive. I've recently replaced both upper (flying bridge) and lower (saloon) controls with Morse Controls. The controls on the upper station connect to, and move, the controls on the lower station - which in turn go to the engine and gearbox.

My problem is this: the gear shift on the lower station (which connects directly to the gearbox) works fine, but the gear shift on the upper station is quite a problem. It works, but is very sticky and unreliable. Very often, I will push the lever to forward or reverse, and it will stay in neutral. This is annoying, but can become downright dangerous when manoeuvring in tight situations.

I've tried to take up the problem with the mechanic who installed it, but - wouldn't you know it? - he seemed to be able to work the gears without trouble. There is definitely a problem when I try to use them, though, and so I am left wondering: is there some trick to using gear shifts that connect second-hand through to the gearbox? Some trick that the mechanic is using unconsciously and of which I'm unaware? e.g., is it better to ease it in slowly, or slam it in fast? Is there some trick to jiggling the controls, as some have hinted in the past?

Or is there something that can be done to lubricate things so that they work better. Keep in mind that these are brand new controls, and that the mechanic who installed them doesn't think there is anything wrong. He did observe, though, that I should not expect the upper station to be as smooth and reliable as the lower station, given that the upper station acts on the gearbox only indirectly through the lower station.

Any comments would be much appreciated.

Jeff
 

Bondo

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Re: Morse gear shift is sticky in dual station

Keep in mind that these are brand new controls,
Ayuh,... What about the Cables,..?? are they also New,..??
 

skipjack27

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Re: Morse gear shift is sticky in dual station

Yes, the cables are brand-new, as well.

But I've had the mechs look at the problem very recently (in the course of dealing with the overheating problem I've discussed in another thread). Turns out that the lower station is connected to the gearbox via a "premium" cable that has (I think) a metal core. The upper station is connected to the lower station, though, by a so-called "quality" cable - but not a premium cable. This "quality" cable apparently has a nylon core and is liable to stretch when it encounters any resistance. So much for quality.

The somewhat embarrassed mech who installed the system muttered that they probably didn't have the appropriate premium cable length in stock at the time, and he has promised to replace it free of charge.

Here's hoping it fixes the problem...

Regards

Jeff
 

scoutabout

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Re: Morse gear shift is sticky in dual station

I would agree it sounds like there's a binding or stretching issue somewhere along the line.

I'd also suggest staying away from using that station until it's sorted for good. That's a lot of boat to have stuck in or out of gear while under power. :eek:
 

arks

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Re: Morse gear shift is sticky in dual station

Yeah, something is not right.
My boat has dual stations rigged like yours (upper to lower, lower to engine room) and they all work smoothly.
 

Ark-86

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Re: Morse gear shift is sticky in dual station

Hey, I wondered if you solved that issue?

I didn't know they could be rigged that way. My 37ft houseboat has two sets of cables running back into a control box that is all corroded and seized. I can't find a replacement, so I'm running only lower bridge.

If it's workable that way, great, I'll have to look at the cable hook ups to see if I could run from from upper to lower instead of all the way back. By the way, another option for you is the electronic
switch controls that you feed both sets of cables into, and switch back and forth. They are pricey.
 

skipjack27

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Re: Morse gear shift is sticky in dual station

Haven't had a chance to find out whether the premium cable resolves the problem. Sourcing an appropriate length of premium cable has been slow, but the mech reckons he should be able fix it early next week.

I'll let you know how it goes after the installation

Jeff
 
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