Michigan man sets Brown Trout world record

[Huron Angler]

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/record_trout

41.7lbs. pretty big brown trout...the only part I question is...only 15 minutes?!?

That's a quick haul for such a huge fish.

 

[dingbat]

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...the only part I question is...only 15 minutes?!?

How long is it supposed to take? The fish only weighed #42 and he had the boat to help him.

 

[Huron Angler]

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How long is it supposed to take? The fish only weighed #42 and he had the boat to help him.

Well...maybe I'm used to catching chinook salmon which love to run and take your line down to the spool...more aggressive than brownies.

To give you a ballpark...my parents caught a 33lb chinook on downriggers in Lake Michigan and it took around 45 minutes to get it in the boat using 20lb test. Granted they were somewhat concerned about breaking the line and didn't exactly horse it in but that is fairly typical around here. 20-30 minutes for a 20-30 lb fish.

Also BTW I found out that this brown trout is apparently part of a planting that took place 20 some years ago and the word is that those big ones have done well in rivers...not so well in the big lakes.

 

[BLU LUNCH]

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15 minutes? Maybe the fish was old and tired................

 

[mike64]

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I watched the video in that link-- criminy that's a big trout! I didn't know they got that big

Imagine if that one got away: "It was THIS big, I tells ya!!" "yeah, riiiight".

 

[dingbat]

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Well...maybe I'm used to catching chinook salmon which love to run and take your line down to the spool...more aggressive than brownies.

To give you a ballpark...my parents caught a 33lb chinook on downriggers in Lake Michigan and it took around 45 minutes to get it in the boat using 20lb test. Granted they were somewhat concerned about breaking the line and didn't exactly horse it in but that is fairly typical around here. 20-30 minutes for a 20-30 lb fish.

Sounds like yall need to tighten up your drags a bit and put some butt into it. If we spent 20-30 minutes a land a #20-30 fish there wouldn't be enough time in a day to catch a limit.

Its Red Drum season in the surf here right now. These fish run anywhere from # 40 to over #100 lbs. Caught one last fall that went a bit over 52" and had a 34" girth. We figure it was pushing #80 pretty hard. It took less than 15 minutes to put it on the beach using an Abu 7500 with #17 mono.

What tackle are you guys using?

 

[Huron Angler]

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Sounds like yall need to tighten up your drags a bit and put some butt into it. If we spent 20-30 minutes a land a #20-30 fish there wouldn't be enough time in a day to catch a limit.

Its Red Drum season in the surf here right now. These fish run anywhere from # 40 to over #100 lbs. Caught one last fall that went a bit over 52" and had a 34" girth. We figure it was pushing #80 pretty hard. It took less than 15 minutes to put it on the beach using an Abu 7500 with #17 mono.

What tackle are you guys using?

Big Jon electric downriggers, five lb balls, spring releases, Daiwa reels and various 8-9 ft rods, 15-20lb test. We usually get 10-20 lb chinook and get them in the boat in 5-10 minutes.

It sounds like you are fishing from shore is that right? Casting? I could see how you can get 'em in quick in a rising tide especially. We probably have a bit more line out when they strike. Do you use downriggers at all?

I think it has to do with the fact that depending on where the thermocline is(they feed around 54 degrees) we may have lines down 150-300 feet and they run further as soon as they feel those treble hooks digging into their face

Then after a 3-5 minute run you can get back all that line plus some but they are going to have another 2-3 runs in them and cranking the drag too much will pop the line rather quickly.

I've seen it happen after seeing a nice fish jump out of the water and my dad friends lost enough fish that way for me to learn how to get them in the boat but I hear ya...sometimes we could horse 'em in a bit more. Sad thing is with the baitfish situation the salmon we catch are only 8-15 now and few and far between. No more screaming reels. The big ones are all in lake michigan these days.

 

[MRS]

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Some times you get the big ones that swim right at the boat. And if you have a good netter or gaffer it is a done deal.

 

[jcsercsa]

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Yea the wife show me it this moning !! we went fish there last year !! We had to let him loose he was only 39 lbs last year !!! HAHAHAH man that is one amazing fish !!! John

 

[xxturbowesxx]

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LOL down here brown trout has a different meaning.. If there's a brown trout in the water time to find a new place to swim/fish.

 

[dingbat]

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It sounds like you are fishing from shore is that right? Casting? I could see how you can get 'em in quick in a rising tide especially. We probably have a bit more line out when they strike.

In Drum fishing a 300' cast is considered average. I'm an above average caster so figure closer to 400' range to start. A good first run and you could easily have 500' of line to recover.

Tides are currents that run parallel to a beach. Tides are a hindrance, not an advantage.

Then after a 3-5 minute run you can get back all that line plus some but they are going to have another 2-3 runs in them and cranking the drag too much will pop the line rather quickly.

Here, try this.
Tie your #20 line to the back of a car and back up 100' and try to breaking it off using just your rod. It's not going to happen. You physically can't do it becouse of the flexing of the rod. You'e going to find it next to impossbile to break even if you wrap it around something and pull as hard as you can.

The only way you can break a line attached to the fishing rod is if you ?lock up? the rod or a drag failure. I will not go into drags settings because there are very few, if any, ?fresh water? reels capable of generating anything close to #20 of drag. If you want to prove this yourself, tie a 5 gallon bucket on the end of your line. Now fill it ? way to the top with water and try picking it up with your rod without your drag slipping.

Now back to the rod locking up. Locking up a rod means that you exceeded the rods ability to bend any further under load. When this happens the weaker of the two is going to give. The line will break if the rod is stronger and the rod will break if the line is stronger. If you have to keep a loose drag to prevent a rod from locking up on a regular basis it's time to rethink your rod selection.

No need for downriggers. Saltwater fish are migratory and tend to favor a lot warmer water to begin with. No need to move up and down in the water column. Of course you have reef fish that prefer the depths but generally speaking most of the Sport Fish tend to feed at or near surface feeders. It's very, very common to see schools of fish feeding right on the surface. In fact, sight casting to surface feeding fish is a very popular method of angling up and down the coast.

 

[Huron Angler]

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In Drum fishing a 300' cast is considered average. I'm an above average caster so figure closer to 400' range to start. A good first run and you could easily have 500' of line to recover.

Tides are currents that run parallel to a beach. Tides are a hindrance, not an advantage.

Wow...I didn't know that people are casting that far on the beach...you must be using pretty heavy lures/bait to get it flying that far. Actually I was just watching the "Hooked" show on National Geographic and some Australian Great White shark fishermen were using surfboards and paddling their bait out past the surf since they claimed that it was too far to cast.

They ended up catching a 8ft shark and used a special chair mounted to their truck for leverage and driving up and down the coast chasing the monster around. Pretty cool

As far as your example, I agree...in a perfect situation the lines shouldn't break...I think it has to do with the fact that we often have little abrasions or weak spots in the line that fail. If a salmon tooth gets caught on the line while fighting it will cause this...or tangles with the downrigger cables...or poorly tied knots.

Of course we should be stripping this bad line off and using 100% brand new every time and then like you said we wouldn't loose as many due to snapped line and we could horse em in without worry. Steel leaders help out in that regard as well.

I think sometimes when we lost fish from the line breaking people were not keeping the rod tip up high enough despite my dad constantly reminding people. I know I was guilty of that when I was 8-10 years old and still learning how to catch the big ones.

As you can tell I've never been fishing in the ocean, so I appreciate you setting me straight on the facts. I would love to try it out sometime out on the east coast.

What's the biggest fish you've landed?

 

[dingbat]

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Wow...I didn't know that people are casting that far on the beach...you must be using pretty heavy lures/bait to get it flying that far.

When Drum fishing I use a fish finder rig. Typically use 8/0 - 12/0 Circle hooks and 8 oz pyramid sinkers. We use whole bunker head as bait. Typical casting payload 12-14 oz total. Guys are throwing 5oz weights 700-800' feet at just about every casting tournaments anymore.

They ended up catching a 8ft shark and used a special chair mounted to their truck for leverage and driving up and down the coast chasing the monster around. Pretty cool

Pretty common on the beaches around her as well in the summertime. Use a kayak to row the bait out over the bar. Fish them stand-up off the beach.

Taken here locally. Estimated weight - #200

As far as your example, I agree...in a perfect situation the lines shouldn't break...I think it has to do with the fact that we often have little abrasions or weak spots in the line that fail.

I cut off leader and retie the hook after every fish. I spend $100s on a day out fishing. No way am I loosing that fish of a lifetime because I used cheap line or was too lazy to check it?s condition each and every time the lines come back in the boat. The most abrasion resistant line on the market right now if Sufix Tritanium.

What's the biggest fish you've landed?

Put in the boat...a #235 Bluefin Tuna. Released at the back of the boat....a estimated #450-500 Blue Marlin off of Hatteras

 

[tmfd]

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Well this got off topic, the thing is, for us Midwest/Great lakes area anglers this trout is a HUGE deal. So ya, you saltwater guys don't think much of it. But again, in this part of the USA its a big deal. Also, you can use a broomstick and a piece of rope to haul a fish in, or, you can use lighter tackle and make a fight out of it.
I'll take our good clean freshwater and "smaller" fishes anyday over corrosive salt, not to mention the nasties that occupy the salt.

 

[dingbat]

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Well this got off topic, the thing is, for us Midwest/Great lakes area anglers this trout is a HUGE deal. So ya, you saltwater guys don't think much of it. But again, in this part of the USA its a big deal. Also, you can use a broomstick and a piece of rope to haul a fish in, or, you can use lighter tackle and make a fight out of it.
I'll take our good clean freshwater and "smaller" fishes anyday over corrosive salt, not to mention the nasties that occupy the salt.

I have a #28 Brown Trout on my office wall that I caught several years ago on one of our annual trips to Lake Ontario. Having caught that fish I certainly can appreciate the significance of the Brown that size.

However misspoken I may have been, had your thoughts not been so clouded in envoy you might have picked up a few tips for handling big fish on light lines that I was trying to convey to the gentlemen.

However, your point is taken. I should have started a new thread entitled: Why use such disproportionally heavy tackle then not take advantage of it?

 

[Huron Angler]

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While I agree that this thread got a little off track I do have to say that Dingbat wasn't trying to one-up our great lakes fish at all...he was responding to my post with a legitimate point.

I also asked him what the biggest fish is that he's caught...so I don't think he was trying to brag about it, just answering the question