Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

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My boat has the exhaust tube instead of the bellows. My question is can I run without that tube in place to keep the gases from going through my leg?
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

How come you don't want exhaust going out the leg?
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

My question is can I run without that tube in place to keep the gases from going through my leg?

Ayuh,... Why,..??..??
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

On plane, most of the exhaust is going to go thru the "leg" anyway. Unless you block the passage in the drive (leg) :) Blocking it will have detramental effects on the boats performance though.
Leg, that still cracks me up.
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

You guys crack me up. The real reason is for sound. I love a through hull sound when on plane but it would be nice to have it quiet when at rest. I have a log style exhaust (which is new so I am not going to change it out) and my transom tunnel does not lend itself to a through hull.

Now I can do a through hull under the waterline, but I need to make sure I have the clearance.
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

In that case, go for it. It's not gonna hurt anything. Fumes might be an issue? :confused:
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

That is true.

Ok... I have one for ya. Since I have the log style manifolds and the elbow is at the back... Could I put another elbow after the top elbow and then go straight out? It would put the exit right at the water line, and maybe below. Of course this would be blocking off the y pipe plate.

Kinda Like this

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Correct me if I am wrong, but even if it below the water line... Is that not just like the the through prop design?
 

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Hmmm.... is this done on boats? Open exhaust, thru-hull into water?

If the pressure is high enough at idle, the engine shouldn't stall (thinking out loud). On a thru prop set up, I would think it's designed to flow fast enough with enough pressure to prevent a stall.

On trucks, it's common to see tips turned sideways so that they aren't submerged when launching/retrieving down a boat ramp (possibly stalling the truck). That makes me wonder about a regular exhaust tip being submerged.
 

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Hmmm.... is this done on boats? Open exhaust, thru-hull into water?

If the pressure is high enough at idle, the engine shouldn't stall (thinking out loud). On a thru prop set up, I would think it's designed to flow fast enough with enough pressure to prevent a stall.

On trucks, it's common to see tips turned sideways so that they aren't submerged when launching/retrieving down a boat ramp (possibly stalling the truck). That makes me wonder about a regular exhaust tip being submerged.

The sideways-bent exhaust doesn't prevent the exhaust from being submerged that much, and even when you submerge the exhaust it won't stall the truck, you just get exhaust bubbles coming out of the water, just like the boat.

Frisco, you are basically talking about switching from thru-prop to thru-hull exhaust, and yes it can be done. You would need a bit of custom piping to make everything work, but that is in essence a normal way to get thru-hull. The exhaust will be much louder, and you'll need special tips with external flappers to keep water from going back up the exhaust when you slow down and your wake comes back against the boat. Seems like a lot of work for very little gain in performance. The manifolds is what causes the lower performance for the most part, not going through the prop.

You would need to pull the engine, and remove the exhaust y-tube and install a block-off plate to do it correctly. You could try and simply cap off the y-tube openings and leave it in there, but that would be a big, heavy peice of tubing serving no other function than to get in the way and be a possible source for a water leak.

I would install the exhaust tube and run it through the leg if I were you.
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

I Am not really trying for performance just a little sound when up on plane. Check out my thread in my sig and you will see I have the engine ou for a restore and now is the time to make that decision. Is there that much of a performance gain swithing to the 83 and later manifolds? It is a very e pensive conversion and all my exhaust stuff is new. I was thinking of using the flapper style tips lime you see on inboard ski boats.
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

I think I read in you other post you had a 305......

My suggestion would be to replace the 305 with a 350 with Vortec heads and run the exhaust tube.......Would probably be easies than the thru hull exhaust and you will get more performance out of it.
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

My boat has the exhaust tube instead of the bellows. My question is can I run without that tube in place to keep the gases from going through my leg?


Howdy,


When I bought my Four Winns 211 Liberator from my brother, It had the High Tech and Wonderful OMC 460 King Cobra installed.

He had a shop install a Y-tube and Capt's Call exhaust diverter system about 11 or 12 years prior and the installer evidently didn't bother to install an exhaust bellows since the drive still had the originally installed plastic screen over the exhaust hole in the drive. (which is standard in thru-hull exhaust models)


When I noticed that it didn't have an exhaust bellows installed and asked my brother about it he replied, "what's an exhaust bellows?"

The boat ran for all those years without it.......Didn't seem to make much difference.....

Leave it off if you want....

Caution though....it will put more exhaust gases closer to the transom at low speed.........



Cheers,


Rick
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

After all of the work you have done I would be hesitant to put ANY more holes in the transom than absolutely necessary. Not that you wouldn't take all precautions needed to install perfectly, but seems like a lot of expence, time, fitment, water intrusion possibilities(hull & engine) for a bit of sound while on plane. I would spend the $ on a 350 vortec and have a real sleeper on your hands. Or keep the tube I have heard they are louder than a bellows system anyways. Besides then you will just have to upgrade to a bigger sound system to compensate for the loud exaust. (jk)
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

Utah... You make a very good point about the sound system.

Question. If I remove the tube from the gimble would it not be louder taht keeping it there? When the drive iis down it slips into the "tube" and somewhat routes it through the drive. So taking that off means that it just dumps right at teh hull right.

I am just brainstorming here.
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

I think I read in you other post you had a 305......

My suggestion would be to replace the 305 with a 350 with Vortec heads and run the exhaust tube.......Would probably be easies than the thru hull exhaust and you will get more performance out of it.


It is going to be a 350. I have it on order and will be here late next week.

350 4 bolt main, 202 heads, and a good torquer cam. It should pull stumps when I am done with it.
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

That will be one mean little boat. I looked into thru hull for my crownline and the way the molded swimdeck is (similar in a way to yours) it would have been a NIGHTMARE to fit in there. That may be another thing to look at is the plumbing around and then behind the engine. As you well know you dont want too many real tight bends which is what mine would have required to make work right, plus it puts the trim rings of the external tips/flappers almost right against the gimble ring of the outdrive. Alphas get hot enough in the upper gearcase(note calcium deposits on every upper of an alpha) I didnt want to even worry about exaust dumping right onto the side of the upper in a long sweeping turn. At lake Powell where I boat frequently the water is warm and there are long stretches that are long radius turns. Or it would come out right where the trim limiter/sensor is located. Those things are touchy enough as is. May not even be an issue on either account, I personally didn't want the expence, hassle, etc of it all. so I used the $ for a nice tower and am SO glad I did both for me and for the kids to learn watersports off of. Good luck keep at it your almost done :]
 

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Re: Mercruiser Exhaust Tube Question

I am pretty much over this thru hull thing, but I am just making sure that I am cool with the removal of the tube. I have a feeling that it will be fine and I will get some good sound out of it without all the headache.
 
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