Mercruiser 4.3 lx WOT

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Plugs are an Autolite 144, I will have to get a vacuum/ pressure gauge and follow the testing procedure listed in the sticky for the fuel system.
 

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Okay a little update. Two weeks ago I ordered a carb for the 4.3, arrived today. The boat has sat for almost three weeks since the last test hop., I took off the old carb and found not a drop of fuel in it, which doesn't make any sense to me, What do you guys think about this find??
 

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Okay a little update. Two weeks ago I ordered a carb for the 4.3, arrived today. The boat has sat for almost three weeks since the last test hop., I took off the old carb and found not a drop of fuel in it, which doesn't make any sense to me, What do you guys think about this find??

Ayuh,... Leaked through into the intake,...
 

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Those Weber 4 bbl carbs are known to dribble after shut-off. That why it's dry.... Known problem that Merc won't acknowledge....again!
 

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dozerII said:
Not a Webber but a Rochester Qaudrajet.

That's 2 I got wrong in this thread... Not doing too well am I... :facepalm:...:shame:

Ok.. I seem to remember something about a couple of plugs in the bottom of the Rochesters that are known to leak... Maybe someone else can confirm that for us...

What Carb did you replace it with? Same, or an Edelbrock 1409?

Chris.......
 

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This is really starting to become irritating. The new carb I ordered (from long time US Rebuilder) was installed along with a new Carter fuel pump. Took the boat out for a test spin and it run worse than ever. Fuel delivery is right on, but the motor ran so rich it covered the back of the transom with soot. I tried to contact the carb rebuilder to no avail, supposedly it had been run on a 4.3 and fully tested with a life time warranty. After waiting for a response and reading on hear about not going with aftermarket carb rebuilder because the don't use the right jets and metering rods, I broke the seal on the carb and took it apart. No wonder it was running rich, the jets were 71's not 66's and the metering rods and tubes were the same. I took the jets, rods and top from my OE carb and made one with the right parts. I rechecked the compression and it is between 140 and 145 across the board. Timing is at 9 btdc at idle in forward, I don't have a timing light that will allow me to check for total advance, does this act up very often with the Thunderbolt ign?? The motor runs real well now and I am getting 4600 wot with a 14 3/4 X 21p prop at only 37 mph. I can't trim up much at all or the prop will blow out and cavitate, and to turn I have to trim almost all the way down.
I have a couple of friends with 4.3's in glass boats that weight 800 to 1200lbs more than my aluminum one with less HP that can run circles around me.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks, and sorry for the long winded update.
 

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This is really starting to become irritating. The new carb I ordered (from long time US Rebuilder) was installed along with a new Carter fuel pump. Took the boat out for a test spin and it run worse than ever. Fuel delivery is right on, but the motor ran so rich it covered the back of the transom with soot. I tried to contact the carb rebuilder to no avail, supposedly it had been run on a 4.3 and fully tested with a life time warranty. After waiting for a response and reading on hear about not going with aftermarket carb rebuilder because the don't use the right jets and metering rods, I broke the seal on the carb and took it apart. No wonder it was running rich, the jets were 71's not 66's and the metering rods and tubes were the same. I took the jets, rods and top from my OE carb and made one with the right parts. I rechecked the compression and it is between 140 and 145 across the board. Timing is at 9 btdc at idle in forward, I don't have a timing light that will allow me to check for total advance, does this act up very often with the Thunderbolt ign?? The motor runs real well now and I am getting 4600 wot with a 14 3/4 X 21p prop at only 37 mph. I can't trim up much at all or the prop will blow out and cavitate, and to turn I have to trim almost all the way down.
I have a couple of friends with 4.3's in glass boats that weight 800 to 1200lbs more than my aluminum one with less HP that can run circles around me.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks, and sorry for the long winded update.

Ayuh,... Try a different smaller prop,...
 

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Okay another update on this carb issue. Like I said in my last post I found the National Carburators carb had the wrong jets and needles in it, so I combined my old and new carbs to get one that works. I have also since found out that my tach is out some and I am getting the proper WOT.
My problem now is if I try to launch hard on take off the motor just falls on it's face, if I accelerate slowly it run excellent. A I right to think I should just order the right carb and fix it after I have already payed my learning tax..
The tag on the original carb is 3304-9354 This cross's to a Sierra 189604-1 Should I buy this one ore what is recommended?

Thanks guys, I need to get this sorted.:loco:
 
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Can anyone tell me if Edlebrock makes a 1409 spreadbore, or do you have to use an adapter?
 

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Can anyone tell me if Edlebrock makes a 1409 spreadbore, or do you have to use an adapter?

Ayuh,... The 1409 Is a spread-bore, 'n has a dual-bolt pattern,...

It's patterned after the ole Carter AFB carb,...
 

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....My problem now is if I try to launch hard on take off the motor just falls on it's face, if I accelerate slowly it run excellent. ...

Check the accelerator pump output (Engine OFF, look down the carb and get someone to give it a single stroke to full throttle), you should see a nice healthy squirt of fuel down each primary throttle barrel. Also make sure the pump rod is in the pump lever hole closest to the carb body (most travel for the pump plunger)...

Chris....
 

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Ayuh,... The 1409 Is a spread-bore, 'n has a dual-bolt pattern,...

It's patterned after the ole Carter AFB carb,...

Thanks for the replys, Bondo the marine 1409 I looked at on Summit Racings site says its a squarebore, do you have to ask for a spreadbore for the application?

Check the accelerator pump output (Engine OFF, look down the carb and get someone to give it a single stroke to full throttle), you should see a nice healthy squirt of fuel down each primary throttle barrel. Also make sure the pump rod is in the pump lever hole closest to the carb body (most travel for the pump plunger)...

achris, I will check the accelerator pump again, I know it worked prior to changing the jets and carb tops. I forgot to check after the change. I do know that the rod is in the close hole, I double checked that.

Thanks again.

Chris....
 

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Thanks for the replys, Bondo the marine 1409 I looked at on Summit Racings site says its a squarebore, do you have to ask for a spreadbore for the application?

Ayuh,.... When ya look at the bottom of the 1409, you'll see the primaries are smaller than the 2ndaries,...
Hence, a spread-bore,...

Just not the spread-bore pattern seen on the quadra-jet,...

As I said, it's based on the ole Carter AFB carbs,... with a dual-bolt pattern,...
 

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Edlebrock 1409 will bolt straight on to your manifold.... Doesn't matter about spread or square....
 

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Okay another update on this carb issue. Like I said in my last post I found the National Carburators carb had the wrong jets and needles in it, so I combined my old and new carbs to get one that works. I have also since found out that my tach is out some and I am getting the proper WOT.
My problem now is if I try to launch hard on take off the motor just falls on it's face, if I accelerate slowly it run excellent. A I right to think I should just order the right carb and fix it after I have already payed my learning tax..
The tag on the original carb is 3304-9354 This cross's to a Sierra 189604-1 Should I buy this one ore what is recommended?

Thanks guys, I need to get this sorted.:loco:

Are you getting any backfiring out of the carb when you go WOT from a stop?
 

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Edlebrock 1409 will bolt straight on to your manifold.... Doesn't matter about spread or square....

Thanks Chris and Bondo.

I just went out and checked the Accel pump and I get two good streams of fuel when I stroke the throttle. Could this problem be from combining the two carbs? This problem wasn't present with the original carb, it just seemed to run real lean and have a low WOT.



Are you getting any backfiring out of the carb when you go WOT from a stop?

No backfire, just a bad bog, like it just falls flat on it's face.
 

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A little more info, I finally got my vacuum gauge, at idle I have 12" on the gauge, if I rev it up to 1200rpm the vacuum will increase to 19-20" then settle at about 15". I sprayed carb cleaner all around the intake, carb base and gasket to check for a leak, with none found. Th only thing I can figure is to order an Edelbrock 1409 to fi it?????
 

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