mercruiser 350 260hp carb

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knightowl

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I had my boat running peachy but my shift alignments where missed up. I couldn't shift before with-out killing the engine first... Now my shifting works flawless and aligned correctly!

The problem now, when i gun my engine all the way, i lose about 50% of power on my full throttle mode. I had my brother drive and i popped the top of the carb open to see whats up.....If hes going about 75% of throttle, the engine works fine. Once he gones it all the way the carbs valve opens up and the engine starts choking in a way... Either too much air the valve is letting in or too much gas as i see lots of gas spraying. While hes goneing it, i push force one of the valves back to its closing position and the engine runs fine again but it doesn't seem like the boat goes any faster, maybe 1 mile faster but operates a lot higher rpm.

The crab according to the dealer is "rebuilt by him" .. Its a quadrant 0-ester 7059288. I think that's correct serial. It has a manual choke which i had to setup the cable for although the boat does have electric wires for electric choke.

My question is, since i have a mercruiser 350 260hp engine, what is the best of the best carb fit for my engine... I have a 25 footer boat with cab and right now i do max about 30mph with 3 people and about 27mph with 5 people.

Before the cables issues.. it felt like my boat run a lot faster... We didn't have a speedo at that time though so i dunno how fast it really was but i know it felt a lot faster then now.... Also at that time i had a old prop set into a brand new outdrive with NO SPACING BUSHING WASHER! I had to buy a new prop because the old bushings don't fit new outboards. Now my grinding is gone and the prop runs fine it seens but the boat does vibrate a little bit when loaded going max.

What carb do i need and what can i do to make my boat run full speed. Or this quadrajet is fine just need some adjusting? Thanks ahead of time guys.
 

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Re: mercruiser 350 260hp carb

My question is, since i have a mercruiser 350 260hp engine, what is the best of the best carb fit for my engine...


What carb do i need and what can i do to make my boat run full speed. Or this quadrajet is fine just need some adjusting? Thanks ahead of time guys.

I can't answer you as to whether or not you need a new carb. Obviously a Quadrajet set up correctly and in good working order should do just fine.

IF it turns out you need a new carb, then I suggest the Edelbrock marine carb. You can pick one up through summitracing.com or many other places for a very reasonable amount. The thing I like about the Edelbrock is that it is very simple and usually works just "as is" straight from the box with no "fiddling." And the truth is - most of us don't know how to properly tune a carb. The simpler the better! (The Edelbrock Performer is a square bore carb while the Quadrajet is a spread bore - so you may or may not need an adapter. Depends upon how much "meat" you have on the manifold.).
 

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Re: mercruiser 350 260hp carb

but what do you think could be the issues with my current carb letting soooo much air/gas in like it almost floods it on full throttle.
 

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but what do you think could be the issues with my current carb letting soooo much air/gas in like it almost floods it on full throttle.

Not all carbs can be sucessfully rebuilt, and not too many people can actually rebuild one anyway. Lost art.

Tearing it apart and throwing a parts kit at it is not a rebuild. Dissasembled parts and body soaked for 24 hours in a real carb cleaner,all passages blown out w/ compressed air (and not a can of keyboard cleaner from Wall of China Mart), floats have to be set precisely fom marine use..etc.

I think it was Bondo that advocated the Float Test for Quadrajunks...
take it off, throw it in the lake, and if it floats, it's a good one.

Otherwise, if you determine you need a real carb, buy the Edelbrok Marine 1409. It has an electric choke so you can toss the jury rigged choke cable. A lot of Merc 4bbl intakes have that asinine square bore to spread bore adapter on them, if so toss it and put on a phenolic spacer the same thickness. Order a fuel line for a Merc Weber equipped 350 and you are good to go.
 

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should i get the 600 cfm or 750 cfm?

Also the carb does look like its warpt. Links provide pictures of the carb. http://www.deltasoldiers.com/personal/carb1.jpg

Also my engine runs cold i think.. the block runs around 110 degrees and the manifolds run around 160-180. The water pump area is around 110-120 as well and thermostat is around 120-130... i have a 145 degree thermostat. Do you think my poor performance is because the engine runs cold all the time and that is why my engine lacks in power and cant burn off the fuel fast enough? Should i get a marine 160 thermostat?

I remember my boat halled before... it seems slow right now... 3 things where wrong with the boat when it felt like the boat ran faster..... 1. old prop on new alpha drive with no spacer washer (which damaged the old prop bit) .... 2. The gears wouldn't shift because the alignment was off a little bit and the "shift switch" wasn't working. 3. The cooling was connect reverse. The manifolds ran hot around 200-210 degrees hot to the touch! You couldnt hold your hand on those manifolds for more then 5-7 seconds depends where you touch it. The engine ran around 160-190.


those 3 issuses where resloved.. i got a new rebuilt prop from dealer... i got the rpms working my next test will be to find out my rpm and buy a brand new prop that fits for this boat correctly. I already tried a 19 pitch prop and a 23 pitch prop and boat run around 30 mph so it has to be a differnt issuse, not prop. Thanks.
 

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The 1409 is more than enough carb for your engine.
 

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If your sure the rest of your fuel system is ok then Fishermark is right on. Several years ago I got tired of fighting my Rochester and went to a edelbrock perfomer ( marine carb ) and it solved all my problems. They dont get all screwed up over the winter either since all gaskets are above the fuel line.
 

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Thanks for reply. I will look into the fuel thing... It does make sense since my engine is brand new although its a 79 make, my carb is old and manifolds old.

But my tank is old too, with some 6 month old gas mixed with mostly new gas and i bet old fuel lines too... I bet one of my filters is clogged. I have an aluminum tank though which i did clean out.... by clean out i mean i syphin the gas out pretty much completely last year and saw bunch of stuff floating around in my old gas..... i had to remove old gas........

I took that old old gas and burned it in my 79 ford 460 7.5lit truck which eats anything... i cant believe it burned too but it did clogg my filter which i had to replace.... $20 filter but burned about 65 gals of old fuel! Well worth it haha!

Thanks bunch fella's, ill keep you up to date..... as for carb, i think i will still try to find that carb you recommended for like $250... if i can find one i think im gonna buy it because it has electric choke and would save me the time... specially if im on the ocean and a big wave is coming and i need to move the boat, i cant afford to loose cranking time adjusting the carb choke cable!
 

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Put an Edelbrock on there & you will never have another problem. This is from experience. They are great carbs.
 

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Make sure that you replace any and all filters - including your fuel water seperator. If you don't have a fuel water seperator, spend the money to put one on.
 

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the dealer that rebuilt me the quadrajett says he doesnt recommend bying the eldbrock 1409.... He says it would need to be re-jetted to work right with the engine. Is this true?
 

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the dealer that rebuilt me the quadrajett says he doesnt recommend bying the eldbrock 1409.... He says it would need to be re-jetted to work right with the engine. Is this true?


He is wrong.
It will work perfectly out of the box on your 350.
All you will need to do is adjust idle a/f screws and the idle rpm.
 

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He is wrong.
It will work perfectly out of the box on your 350.
All you will need to do is adjust idle a/f screws and the idle rpm.

That's been my experience as well...
 

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the dealer that rebuilt me the quadrajett says he doesnt recommend bying the eldbrock 1409.... He says it would need to be re-jetted to work right with the engine. Is this true?

It sounds like he enjoys the income he makes rebuilding Quadrajets! :rolleyes:
 

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I have the 350/260 same set up as yours. 1409 runs great on it right out of the box.
 

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Re: mercruiser 350 260hp carb

In my opinion the Quadrajet is on of the best carbs ever built. They get a bad rap cause they can be used on so many different combos. They have been used on a 3.8L V6 to the 500cu caddy motor.

I think yours needs to be properly rebuilt. It can be done but must be done by someone who knows how. You can also do it yourself and do it for alot less money than a edelbrock carb.

I run a Q-jet on my boat and it runs like Fuel injection. If you need any help and want to do it right PM me.
 

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Swapping carbs is opening your self to a host of other problems.... Jetting, Accelerator pump setting, idle mixture setting, too much CFM, too little CFM.
Its not a bolt on thing! Get your carb rebuilt by a REPUTABLE shop!

I have done this once before on my CJ and i will never do it again. It just never ran right... until i switched to EFI :)
 
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