Mercruiser 3.0 Trouble Starting

ROY WILLIAMS

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Okay I have had similar issues and it sounds like your timing/ fuel mixture are off. It sounds like your engine is immediately flooding itself on start up because it isn’t combusting the fuel in the cylinders soon enough. Have you changed fuel/air mixture screw or idle speed screw on carb at all?? Next time you are at the boat push the throttle SLOWLY all the way to the wide open throttle position with the throttle in NEUTRAL mode, then crank the engine and see if it starts up better. If so that means something is causes your fuel mixture to be too rich. You can also try just bumping the key to the start position multiple times for one second each in quick repetition to see if that makes it start.
you was the engine ? the year ? the carb of the mixture screws turn the cw tighten then the ccw 1-1/2 ...the rpm engine is the 650 RPMS .... running the engine neutral of the engine temp 140-160 F then adjust the mixture screw adjusted it 1/2 rotations ..
did you idle timing ?
 

cdavy000

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you was the engine ? the year ? the carb of the mixture screws turn the cw tighten then the ccw 1-1/2 ...the rpm engine is the 650 RPMS .... running the engine neutral of the engine temp 140-160 F then adjust the mixture screw adjusted it 1/2 rotations ..
did you idle timing ?
Not really sure what you’re asking but I have an 86 3.7 liter Mercruiser which is basically the same engine just a bigger displacement. And I have done my idle timing before?
 

Scott Danforth

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Not really sure what you’re asking but I have an 86 3.7 liter Mercruiser which is basically the same engine just a bigger displacement. And I have done my idle timing before?
nowhere near the same motor.

also, what does your 470 have to do with the OP's issue of no spark?
 

ROY WILLIAMS

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Not really sure what you’re asking but I have an 86 3.7 liter Mercruiser which is basically the same engine just a bigger displacement. And I have done my idle timing before?
the MCM470 engine of the 3.7L ? 1986 year ...
the engine is the decades 8 deg BTDC of the timing .... now MERCRUISER BULLETIN the NEW gasoline is the 4 deg, timing BTDC of the RPM 650-700 .. ...
 

cdavy000

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nowhere near the same motor.

also, what does your 470 have to do with the OP's issue of no spark?
Their ignition systems are nearly identical, points ignition system, single ignition coil, with a distributor that has mechanical advance. They both have a mechanical fuel pump. They also both have 2bbl carbs. The idle speed setting, fuel mixture setting , and idle rpm range are all the same. The timing is also the same for both engines as they have both been changed from 8 deg btdc to 4 btdc as per the Mercruiser Service bulletin. So I would have to disagree that they are “no where near the same engine”. And if you read what OP said, he has told us that he ASSUMED no spark, therefore he doesn’t know for sure; so I was providing a solution that fixed a similar no start problem with an arguably similar engine. The fact that he has told us that his engine starts after trying many, many times tells me that he isn’t getting “no spark” because clearly it is starting sometimes. A flooded engine would present a similar issue as an engine with “no spark” would. OP could hold the spark plug in his hand and place the metal part on the engine while cranking to see if he sees a nice thick blue spark to test for spark.
 

cdavy000

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the MCM470 engine of the 3.7L ? 1986 year ...
the engine is the decades 8 deg BTDC of the timing .... now MERCRUISER BULLETIN the NEW gasoline is the 4 deg, timing BTDC of the RPM 650-700 .. ...
I am aware of the bulletin. Both the 3.0 and the 3.7 have the rpm range of 650-700 and the timing change from 8 deg btdc to 4 deg btdc as per the bulletin.
 
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