Merc 3.0 carb cost?

Johny12

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I was told i need a new carb for my 3.0 merc cruiser in/out. I was informed that it has already been rebuilt (new boat to me). The cost is $900 plus $200 for install, does this seem right? I thought it was a little high. Thanks for looking and any advise or answers i can get. Oh and it's a double barrell.
John
 

wired247

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

You need to go to the outdrive forum. This is the outboard forum. That is WAY too much money for a carburetor btw. Just buy a $50 kit and rebuilt yours. Its an easy job.
 

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

Hi there, do you by chance have your engine year and serial number handy?
 

thumpar

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Why does it need replaced? That is pretty high for a carb cost and the install is high also. I removed, rebuilt and reinstalled the cab on my 2.5l in a couple hours with maybe $30 in parts (I am not a mechanic). Even if you were to get a new carb it should not cost that much. We don't know for sure what you have but I would guess $400-$500 for the carb and maybe and hours worth of work.
 

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

I rebuilt a Holly 4bbl for $50.00, using a Holly kit......unless the throttle body is tore up, rebuild it. Even a good new carb would cost less than $500.00 and the install is approx 30 min deal if you have no experience. Those prices you quoted are WAY out of line......just sayin
 

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OMG!!!! It takes about 20 min to remove and instal the carb. If you don't feel comfortable rebuilding it yourself take it to a reputable rebuilder. There is nothing on the carburetor that wares out that can not be rebuilt.
 

achris

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

I was told i need a new carb for my 3.0 merc cruiser in/out. I was informed that it has already been rebuilt (new boat to me). The cost is $900 plus $200 for install, does this seem right? I thought it was a little high. Thanks for looking and any advise or answers i can get. Oh and it's a double barrell.
John

Interesting... A brand new unit from Merc is only $734....
 

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I would be reporting the SOB who quoted you those figures to the BBB! That is a scam artist of the highest degree of dishonesty. Tell him to get bent and rebuild the carb yourself. It's ridiculously easy. I've done two of them for $25 each in parts.
 

Johny12

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

Thank's to everybody for the replies, it's much appreciated. I'll def be looking around for a better deal. The carb has already been rebuilt and I was told it cannot be rebuilt twice? that may also be false. I'll try to get my serial number as requested but I know the year is a 1997 , it's a 17 foot Maxum. I was told the carb was " weak", no clue what that means, haha. Thanks again folks, it's nice to have this site for people like me who are new to the sport. Stay safe.
 

achris

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

Thank's to everybody for the replies, it's much appreciated. I'll def be looking around for a better deal. The carb has already been rebuilt and I was told it cannot be rebuilt twice? that may also be false.

It is....

Johny12 said:
I'll try to get my serial number as requested but I know the year is a 1997 , it's a 17 foot Maxum. I was told the carb was "weak", no clue what that means, haha. Thanks again folks, it's nice to have this site for people like me who are new to the sport. Stay safe.

Those carbs are unbelievably simple to rebuild. The gasket set and packing set (needed to do the job) are about $53 between them. All you need is the manual and a few common hand-tools.

BTW, what are the problems with the engine? 'Weak' sounds like lack of power, and there are a multitude of reasons why an engine would lack power, and very few of them entail the carburettor...

Chris......
 

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Cannot be rebuilt twice... Uh oh then I'm in trouble for all those carbs over all these years. sigh. It is aholes like that who make the rest of us look bad. Sometimes I hear these stories and reflect on the sad state of marine repair today. There's lots of good honest technicians though but we are all tainted by a few bad ones.
 

thompson80

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Just purchased a rebuilt 2gc for my '82 140. $300.00 but it was about another $250 for labor. There was a bit of extra time involved to change a choke cover, but other than that, I dunno why it should have involved 2 hours of labor.

And it STILL has a hard time staying running and accelerating from idle until it's been run awhile (only had it out once since the rebuilt carb install). I warmed it up at the dock to 150-160 degrees (new freshwater cooling kit installed) before shifting into gear, but it died 2, 3 times. When it DID keep running and I got it into gear, I still had to sneak the throttle up as if there is still an accelerator pump issue. But after running for awhile, she ran fine. Fuel/water separator installed a few tanks of gas ago.

Just did a complete rebuild, but all original bolt-ons re-used (starter, alternator, carb, until this carb rebuild). New points, plugs, tune-up, of course. Just drained the 20 hour break-in oil, and will do more testing this week.

Read on another thread that some 2gc carbs didn't use an accelerator pump? For the 120 only, or for the 140 as well?
 

Johny12

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

Great info, thank you for your response, much appreciated.
 

Walt T

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All carburetors have 4 circuits. Idle, acceleration, power, and choke. Sometimes it's helpful to remember this when diagnosing. Bog when accelerating or backfire and dying while accelerating ... Acceleration circuit. Will not idle or too rich or too lean (neither of which I am) at idle.. Idle circuit but rich condition can also be choke as choke assists idle when cold. Go from idle to acceleration to power and then notice problems... This is the most misdiagnosed condition as techs or users tend to think ignition problems. Acceleration circuit aids the transition from idle to power circuit because when the throttle plates are opened while the engine is still at a low rpm creates a low vacuum situation so we need more fuel to compensate for the atomized fuel already in the air from the idle circuit dropping out and falling on the intake manifold surfaces and creating a lean condition. Once rpm catches up to throttle plates opening then the power circuit then gets involved and the vacuum created by a load on the engine then draws fuel through the power circuit. Wrong jets or wrong power valves or clogged passages can cause all sorts of symptoms commonly misdiagnosed. Here's a way to start a basic diagnosis: A consistent steady miss or a bad running/backfire situation at ALL rpms, or a consistent regular problem at a very specific rpm.. start with ignition. Bad ignition modules inside distributors have caused more carburetor rebuilds than anything else. Transient misfires, problems cropping up after running perfect awhile then goes back to perfect, Under accel, under idle, bad run when cold start with fuel. The seemingly miss while running under load can be a tough one but is easily diagnosed with a timing light and someone driving the boat. Check for steady light flashing on plug wires, an ignition problem can be seen if it is in the primary ignition circuit. A secondary ignition circuit will sometimes show up on one or two plug wires. If you pull spark plugs to check them, do a compression test if only to eliminate that. Fuel pressure gauge and a vacuum gauge is very helpful as a vacuum gauge can find a valve not working right at rpm but fine at idle. A diagnosis should be methodical and logical. If you don't understand how something works how can you diagnose it? That's why we are here. However jumping around from system to system doesn't help you or us. Insisting it's an ignition problem when we say fuel simply makes us give up and not respond. BS'ng and saying you did a test we say to do and then just say it's "fine" so we will tell you what you want to hear doesn't help you or us. I've even had guys give up and take it to a shop, then BS me by saying the actual problem was what they said it was and I was wrong. Believe you us.. All of us techs can catch that one and we will never argue because it's pointless. Be straightforward, do what we suggest, and we'll get to the root of your problem and hopefully guide you to saving lots of money. Even if you think we are full of it by saying do a test, when several techs here agree and say it should be done, Pay attention. We all want to help and now I'm just a raving lunatic who needs coffee so catch yall on the late.
 

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

I found a couple older posts that MAY be the answer for both Johny12 and me (if Johny12's "carb is weak" issue pertains to acceleration), and perhaps for many others who have the "bogging" on acceleration, or hesitation issue. It seems to be a major problem & frustration for many boaters, regardless of engine model (can't count the hours I've spent reading dozens of posts on this one issue), and people end up spending lots of time and money chasing their tails trying to solve this issue. Would like your opinion, Walt, or that of any others who may have knowledge of this particular recommended "cure."

In a 3/27/11 post, a poster stated that Mercruiser tech support recommends drilling out the accelerator pump ports (the two ports where the accelerator pump shoots gas into the carb venturi) to 1/16" (0.0625"). On another, older post (if I remember correctly), someone reported success drilling out those ports to 0.040" and said that helped. This is supposed to compensate for use of gas containing ethanol. And then in two later posts, 4/12/11 and 3/16/12, success was reported by 2 dif. individuals using this modification. (I presume these numbers, 0.040" and 0.0625" refer to just the 2GC models, and other carbs may require different size port mods?).

Two questions: 1) If I use ethanol-free "marine" gasoline, should that negate the need to do this carb modification? And 2) If I do this modification, or have a carb shop do it (my preference - take it to a pro), do you think it will actually work, if all other variables have been accounted for (ignition point gap, dwell, timing, distributor advance, good ethanol-free gas, etc.)?

I'm just about to try ethanol-free gasoline for the first time since the rebuilt of both engine & carb. I want to see how the performance improves, before I launch into more down time, waste $$, and maybe destroy an otherwise perfectly good pro rebuilt carb.
 
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Walt T

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I really can't answer that as I've never done it. I'm not sure how that would be an improvement or not an improvement with ethanol gasoline. What that does is dump more gas into the intake manifold during the time of vacuum drop in the hopes that some will stay suspended in the airflow instead of falling on the intake manifold surfaces thereby preventing the bog until rpms catch up to the throttle opening. I would verify and I do mean verify you aren't covering up for another problem such as a vacuum leak.
 

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I really can't answer that as I've never done it. I'm not sure how that would be an improvement or not an improvement with ethanol gasoline. What that does is dump more gas into the intake manifold during the time of vacuum drop in the hopes that some will stay suspended in the airflow instead of falling on the intake manifold surfaces thereby preventing the bog until rpms catch up to the throttle opening. I would verify and I do mean verify you aren't covering up for another problem such as a vacuum leak.

JUST Rebuilt the carb, gasket is new, but still exhibiting SOME of the same issue (bogging, hesitating before throttling up from idle to power). Better after the rebuild, but still there to the point I have to gently sneak the throttle up to around 1500 rpm before being able to go fast without worrying about a cough & die situation. If I slam the throttle down, even in neutral on the trailer, with no load on the prop, it will backfire & die every time. I suppose I could still have another vacuum leak somewhere other than in the carb itself or its gasket - maybe the manifold gasket? Will run all this by my rebuilder tomorrow and get his take on it.
 

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Re: Merc 3.0 carb cost?

JUST Rebuilt the carb, gasket is new, but still exhibiting SOME of the same issue (bogging, hesitating before throttling up from idle to power). Better after the rebuild, but still there to the point I have to gently sneak the throttle up to around 1500 rpm before being able to go fast without worrying about a cough & die situation. If I slam the throttle down, even in neutral on the trailer, with no load on the prop, it will backfire & die every time. I suppose I could still have another vacuum leak somewhere other than in the carb itself or its gasket - maybe the manifold gasket? Will run all this by my rebuilder tomorrow and get his take on it.
Maybe find a new "rebuilder"? On my old 2.5l with 2GC I could throttle it however I wanted and it would respond like it was supposed to. I did the rebuild on the carb myself.
 
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