Looking to buy my first boat

tazrig

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Re: Looking to buy my first boat

Bob who is doing the survey will be going everything over for me except a compression test which I already have a copy of which the dealer did when they bought the boat off the owner.


I may be pessimistic but I would trust nothing the dealer tells me until I verify it. The likelyhood of a 64 hour engine having compression problems is remote but why take the chance. Have your surveyor check that too. If you do have bad compression adding on the cost of rebuilding the engine may make this NOT such a steal after all. Good luck and I hope for your sake it IS EVERYTHING the dealer says it is. Make sure to let us.
 

xymmot

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Re: Looking to buy my first boat

I bought my first boat after doing a lot of research such as yourself. I moved up from a SEA PRO 18CC to a 30 ft CARVER within two years, and after a year of learning the ropes, I am ready to move up to my dream.....a 40 footer. Learning a lot about maintenance, engine and basics of how a boat work is the key. I always key into taking the time to look at many used boats before I made my first big purchase. I look at the new boats first and take their numbers and cut it in half. It's a start where you know what options you want and about what you should pay. See what individual parts would cost, such as a engine. Before you purchase a boat, I always check the engine...how it runs, sounds and the maintenace records if any because that is 75% of the boats worth. Having a good engine is over half the battle knowing that it works well and is reliable in the water. (reason I bought both of my boats is because there was very good maintenace records on both engines, oil change records, tune ups and winterizations. Many dated reciepts of work done, parts replaced, and great compression test records as well.)
Yes, buy a fiberglass boat for easy maintenace. Best floating one is the Boston Whaler that doesn't sink. Ask around for peoples opinion about boats just like you are doing on this post and forumn. In my opinion, I never like Bayliners and you will learn from other people that they are a cheaper made boat. In the 80's and 90's it is said that they use less fiberglass on their boats, and cheaper materials. As you can see now the results when you look at a used one. (many out of service, blisters in the glass) , A friend of mines bought a new Bayliner 17ft two years ago for $15,000 at a boat show. he is lucky if he can sell it for half if he puts it on the market. We had a lot of fun on it though and did not have to worry about the engine. Has good gas mileage for a 125hp. He is keeping a good maintence record as he is following my example for a resale in the future.

best advice is take your time......check the engine....do not buy anything with a oil leak!, know what options you need on a boat, be it radio, rockett launchers, windlass anchor, cuddy cabin, porta potties, etc. list this as must have. Check the trailers for lights, smooth ride and tires. When you find the boat, take it out on the water if you can. Most people who selling a good boat do not mind taking the boat out for a sea trial because they like the boat and will boast on how great she been to them, they will show you how everything works as well. Have your money ready! and don't waste another boat owners time if the boat is as advertised.Good luck in your search and welcome to the boating world.

cheers tommy x
 

BigDog98

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Re: Looking to buy my first boat

I'm looking to buy my first boat. I'm going to get a bowrider in the 17-19 ft. range. I don't know a lot about boats but have been doing my research and learning what i can before I buy. When i first started looking the bayliners caught my eye because of the price and because the older ones really still look stylish but then as you get reading around it sounds like they are on the lower end quality wise.

One thing i have heard and to me makes complete sense that in older boats it's often the wooden floors and area's that start to get "soft"

Hearing this i really want one that is all fiberglass.

Are the newer bayliners all fiberglass? Do they have fiberglass floors?

I'm looking for something probably newer than 2000, like to have something that is all fiberglass and would like to stay 6-8 grand. Want it to be close to mint condition.

Any thought/advice?

I'm going to go with a 3.0L or 4.3L as fuel mileage is important to me.

Thanks,
Jason


All sounds good in buying a boat for a new boater. Just remember this! If you are mechanically inclined then go for it. If you are not then make sure you have alot of money. If non of that apply s then you may wanna reconsider buying a boat. If you have worked on cars or anything with a engine (even a lawnmower) then you should be fine. Boats take up a lot of time and money and space. You end up spending more time working on them then enjoying them (at least in my case). If you plan on using the boat in a freshwater area then this rule does not necessarily apply as much to it. But if its in saltwater then forget about it. With thats said the Bayliner brand is not the best in craftsmanship but i could also name a 100 more brands like this! I would go with a SeaRay or maybe Glastron boat because they are known to be good for there boat quality! Remember on thing!!! B>O>A>T=Bust Out Another Thousand!!
 

jasonstein

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I'm not a mechanic but i have always done my own maitenance on my vehicles. I used to be into snowmobiling quite a bit and i learned quite a bit on them. How to take the carbs apart, change the jets, etc. So i def plan on getting a shop manual and doing all i can to maintain this boat.

The survey came back great with no concerns. Guy said it looked like a real good boat, very close to mint shape, just needs to be detailed. So it's a 2006 185 Stingray with 69 hours on it for $6000!

I'm almost scared to use the thing is salt water the way everyone talks! Guess it will only be a few times though and i'll make sure i take it out of the water and flush everything as soon as i'm done. I'm going to look into the freshwater lakes and canals around Cape coral. Those are an easier option for me at this point anyways.
 

tazrig

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Nothing to be worried about in salt water. Flush the engine for 5-10 minutes at temperature and you're golden! My last set of Mercs lasted 22 years in salt water and rust wasn't why I sold them.
 

crabby captain john

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Connect the muffs to fresh water, run water, start engine, make sure the engine is warm~~~ shut her down and put her to bed. The problem with I/Os in salt is when they sit in a slip forever. Salt will eat the manifolds and risers if never rinsed.
 

BigDog98

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I'm not a mechanic but i have always done my own maitenance on my vehicles. I used to be into snowmobiling quite a bit and i learned quite a bit on them. How to take the carbs apart, change the jets, etc. So i def plan on getting a shop manual and doing all i can to maintain this boat.

The survey came back great with no concerns. Guy said it looked like a real good boat, very close to mint shape, just needs to be detailed. So it's a 2006 185 Stingray with 69 hours on it for $6000!

I'm almost scared to use the thing is salt water the way everyone talks! Guess it will only be a few times though and i'll make sure i take it out of the water and flush everything as soon as i'm done. I'm going to look into the freshwater lakes and canals around Cape coral. Those are an easier option for me at this point anyways.


Yea freshwater would be the way to go but i would still flush the boat even in freshwater. Well for a 2006 boat and being priced at $6000 is a very scary number to me. It is way to cheap for a 2006. There must be something wrong. Or maybe its just my paranoia acting up again because i have bin burned so much before with used boats at low prices. But good luck and if everything is good then i could say you got a good buy. ! :joyous:
 
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