look what my brother and I towed home!!!!!

[horiconducker]

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Cancer on the starboard side of transom only, it just crumbles when you touch it, so bad the last two feet of floor on that side were the same way, the port side of transom is solid as can be, clearly was some water weeping there.

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Me drilling out floor rivets

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A friend removing the top of the gunwale from the islander to put over the holiday gunwale, whoever did the islander conversion had to cut big 4"x6" holes in the top of the holiday gunwale to get access to put nyloc nuts on the bolts he used to put the islander cap on.

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top center portion removed from the islander cap

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Luckily not much poured in foam. Just regular styrofoam all cut nicely to fit and it was all bone dry, under the tank there was three garbage bag that had poured in foam in that was saturated in water and heavy, but easy to remove since it was in bags, sure glad the whole boat was not full of that stuff.

 

[horiconducker]

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My brother doing some more rivet work

Pretty much down to the bare hull by sunday night, you can see in this pic that we have the islander gunwales laid on for mocking up, will have to cut the holiday gunwales a bit to make everything fit nicely. Well unfortunately that is the end of the boat porn for a few days. Next plans are, not sure of the order yet, take to work and weld up misc. holes in transom and gunwales, check and repair rivets for leaks, cut floor so when time comes it will be ready to go in. Got 2 sheets of 3/4 marine ply ordered today for transom, will be here in a week, plan on just using exterior grade ply on the floor. We just got to keep moving, the dealer i bought the big single outboard from is storing it for me until june so i can take advantage of the 30 day warranty he is offering.

 

[Pugetsound]

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A boy and his toy is a heart full of joy. Big project but you two seem to be up for the job. Are you goin to list the parts for sale or just try localy to move them out. Big demand for some of that stuff. Pugetsound----- on the west coast 10 miles from the Pacific. I have a 22 Holiday with a 200 Johnson OB and a 9.9 merc kicker. Very fast boat and a joy to run. Also a 16 SS just rebuilt. I think everything on my Holiday is origional from the Factory its a 1975. The 16 SS is a 1978

 

[jasoutside]

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A Holiday V5, turned Islander V5, turned SC V5! Awesome, love it!! Great project ducker, looking forward to watching it unfold man

 

[djpeters]

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Man you dodged a bullet with that foam, I guess the pour in stuff came out in '79 then. Lot of familiar pics there. Good Luck!

 

[fshngho]

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DUDEAhem, forgive me. I mean Mr. Ducker Sir. You and you're brother started out with a beautiful boat, and even though I understand the"personalize your boat thing", ..I mean my goodness it looked sweet. Well, not for me to judge. You gentlemen are doing a great job both in modification/restoration but also in pics. Darn, I can't complain about that. Ya gotta keep us up on what the game plan is. I don't have to like it ( I do ) but I do have to appreciate the work. I salute you two.

 

[MichaelP]

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You guys are moving along fast! Hate to see the pseudo islander go but I'm looking forward to see how this will turn out.
Don't forget to list any extra parts on the "Starcraft parts" thread in this forum.

 

[horiconducker]

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Got to working on the boat again this weekend, saturday filled the hull with water to find leaks, to our surprise only have about 6-8 leaky rivets that need attention. I was orignally planning on buying a rivet gun and replacing leaky rivets with new solid rivets, but with so few leakers, i think i will try rebucking them by hand, and if that does not work, i will just replace the few rivets with bolts and nyloc nuts. to save on costs. It started raining on us, so we moved inside to work on other things, will fix the rivets when it is nicer out. Our next thing to do was fab up new gunwales. The islander gunwales where too high for our liking. We were able to use parts from the islander top to make gunwales that suited us better. Here is a pic of us trimming the gunwale that was still connected to the hull, not sure if this part is from the holiday, or if this was something PO had fabbed up. Had to trim this section so the new gunwale could be slid out to the edge of the hull.

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In this pic the new strbrd gunwale is on and we are working on cutting the port side

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finished gunwale

kicker that i picked up for it last weekend, hopefully it will push it ok, really wanted a 15hp, but got a great deal on this one.

 

[horiconducker]

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Also this weekend got the rotten transom out, came out very easy, and got the new transom traced out on the new marine ply and got the 2 sheets glued together

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Here it is all glued togther, we used screws to hold both sheets together, you can see we rough cut one sheet for the splash well and plan to use that piece on the back of the boat, not really sure what that piece does, I dont think it adds to much strength to the transom, but i will put it back on there. Plan to let the glue set for a few days, then cut out both transom pieces at once later this week. Tuesday or wednesday the aluminum i ordered for new transom supports and new pieces for the top of the splash well should be here, and my mother load of misc. stuff i ordered from iboats will be here. Will post up once we get some more progress

 

[djpeters]

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Your transom was shot, a little worse than mine was. Your gunwalls are different than mine, prolly like you said...fabbed up by PO. Looks like those shears make quick work of cutting aluminum. Nice work so far.

 

[jasoutside]

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Nice work ducker! Hey, what were all those squares on the gunwale cut out for anyway??

I betcha that little 9.9 will push it just great, especially seeing as you removed a bunch of weight by taking the whole topper off, eh!

Love that deep V5 hull buddy

 

[Starcraft Enterprise]

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What is a "V5" hull?

 

[Pugetsound]

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Three chines on each side instead of the two, If isee it right.

 

[CBGale2]

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What is a "V5" hull?

V5 was pretty much the start of the more modern aluminum hull. The extra chines and smooth sides instead of the lapstrake sides.

 

[djpeters]

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My boat came with a 9.9 kicker on it. I ran it once with my GPS along and it would push it 5 mph without working too hard. Wide open we were doing 8 mph.

Starcraft advertised the V-5's as their "Ocean" hulls when they came out in '78. Like others have said they have an extra chine and I believe extra ribbing on the inside as well up front. The V is sharper and comes up from the keel quicker (if you were to look at it from the side). There is a write up in the '78 brochures. It's interesting they made them in 14' (Holiday), 18' (Holiday and SS), & 22' (Holiday, SS, Islander). They never made the V-5 in a 16' anything though.....

 

[CheapboatKev]

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Three chines on each side instead of the two, If isee it right.

Then its a V6! lol

 

[Pugetsound]

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My 22 Holiday is in the Pacific Ocean all summer and is a excellent big water boat. Very smoth but its only a 1975 so must not be a V5. Whatever works LOL

 

[horiconducker]

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Ill try to explain those square holes the best i can, wish i would've taken more pictures of how the islander top was fastened down to the hull, it would make it much easier to see. The very top part of the islander cap, the windshield part, this one

[/IMG] was bolted and nyloc nutted to the top of the gunwale(painted one) that i have modified to fit the hull now( I have lowered it,about 4 inches, and moved it outward from its location on the islander). Those squares were cut so you could reach up through the squares to turn or hold the nut so the bolt could be tightened up. Im still not sure if the pieces with the squares cut in them were from the factory on either the holiday or islander or if the PO added them. I will say this, when we doing tear down and removed the piece of plywood that attaches to the floor and runs vertically and attaches to the inside of the gunwale, the gunwale was SUPER flimsy, so flimsy we had to start getting in and out of the boat at the transom to avoid damage. At this point we only have the gunwale reattached to the edge of the hull, no plywood support vertically, and i would feel comfortable standing on it as it is, so after i put that piece of vertical plywood back in, will be able to jump all over the gunwale.

 

[lonnie t]

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top work so far matie

 

[King James]

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v5 hardtop convertable -?????????? build it like ya want looks like a great job guttin it so and um let me know what ya want for one of them cmc units