Learning experiance

brighton

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My 9 year old son and I (both novices but engineers) acquired a "53 or '54 Super Fastwin 15 HP evinrude (15012-27852) purely to learn what makes them work. I would like to tear down the entire engine and explain main components. It would add to the enjoyment if we could put back together and make it run. Currently in some pieces and hasn't run for years (manual is on the way for '53). Any suggestion to improve our chances of seeing it run again (I don't want to permanently damage anything that can't be replaced).
 

R.Johnson

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Re: Learning experiance

This is a very basic engine, and once you have the manual you should be set to go. If the parts are still sound you could end up with a very nice running old engine. Many of the basic parts, such as ignition, carb kits, and water pumps are still available.If you get stuck, just check here. Keep in mind you are involving your son in outboards, Thats what happened to me.
 

fishunter15

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Re: Learning experiance

On an old motor like that you want to make sure no bolts are going to break when taking it apart. Make sure you soak any bolt that doesn't seem to want to come out before trying again. PB blaster is an excellant product to use. In my own experience when you break bolts the fun of taking apart and rebuilding a motor is taken over by aggravation of having to tediously drill out broken bolts.. Good luck and have fun
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: Learning experiance

fishunter15 is right. Expect to break off a few bolts unless you are VERY lucky. But nothing you can't deal with. Spray them as suggested several times over a couple days with PB Blaster(None Better) and let them sit a couple more days. You may need to apply heat to the real stubborn ones...
 

R.Johnson

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Re: Learning experiance

What is PB Blaster, and where do you find it? I have never used it, sounds like good stuff.
 

jim dozier

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Re: Learning experiance

If the engine has seen salt water, buy a propane torch to heat stuck bolts in addition to the liberal use of penetrating oils.
 

brighton

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Re: Learning experiance

Thanks for the responses It's encouraging to know it might run if we get all the pieces back together. Sounds like the biggest concern is for stuck bolts. Should I worry about destroying gaskets when exposing sealed areas? Do I make replacement gaskets? When we clean carbon'd up surfaces and "polish" them is there a concern???? Uh-oh here come the questions!
 

LubeDude

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Re: Learning experiance

Congratulations on spending quality time with your son, and not letting him sit in front of the tube playing video games all day and all night. (nothing wrong with them in moderation) This will be something you will both remember for ever, Espesially if you manage to get it running and long after you are gone and he is trolling along, he will be remembering this time! Your a "real" Dad.
 

Chinewalker

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Re: Learning experiance

Hi MP,<br /> When you're disassembling the motor, take care to save as much of the old gaskets as possible - you'll need them to make new ones. Not all the gaskets follow the machines surfaces perfectly, as they may route cooling water here or there, so the original gaskets will help you get it right. The only gasket that may be difficult to reproduce would be the head gasket, so care should be taken to preserve it. If it's not re-usable, then you'll have to scrounge one up.<br /> If you're from a freshwater area, the odds of your getting the motor apart without breaking anything increase dramatically.<br /> Save the original piston rings. Clean the ring grooves. Don't polish the pistons, but you may scuff up the skirts a bit with 150grit sand-paper, leaving a cross-hatch patternn. Don't polish the inner castings, either - there should be a reddish primer on the innards that helps seal the pourous castings. Early, non-sealed aluminum casting sused to weep oil over time, as the castings were of generally poor quality.<br /> A carb kit should contain the necessary gaskets. <br /> Do you have the original dual-line fuel tank to go with the motor? They're afreqently available item on eBay. <br /> Also, consider joining the Antique Outboard Motor Club (www.aomci.org). Lots of swap meets all over the country - good contacts for parts, etc...<br />- Scott
 
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