is it possible to completely remove mold on a vinyl seat?

[thebrain]

I don't think it's safe to sit on this seat in it's current condition?

is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

what are the chances of the seat mold speading to like the carpet and other parts of boat?

Thanks STB

 

[zopperman]

Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

*possible
*vinyl

Chances of it spreading - mold needs moisture and darkness to spread. give it those, and it may.
Try s bleach solution or a "scotch brite" pad... or a magic eraser... see what that does. seat looks like it's seen better days though

 

[Woodonglass]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

This stuff is Great for removing mildew and mold from Vinyl Seats.

 

[jigngrub]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

"Is it possible for the mildew to spread?"

Truth be known, the mildew probably spread from your damp/wet carpet onto the seat. Carpet is nasty if you don't keep it completely dry... and how are you going to do that in a boat?

There are many mildew removing soaps, but most of them contain bleach... and bleach will eventually eat the thread that your seats are sewn together with. Pick one without chlorine bleach.

 

[zopperman]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

"Is it possible for the mildew to spread?"

Truth be known, the mildew probably spread from your damp/wet carpet onto the seat. Carpet is nasty if you don't keep it completely dry... and how are you going to do that in a boat?

There are many mildew removing soaps, but most of them contain bleach... and bleach will eventually eat the thread that your seats are sewn together with. Pick one without chlorine bleach.

That's weird, because I washed my seats with bleach 2 years ago when I got them and they'd been sitting outside uncovered for a decade. The thread is still holding up today...

 

[thebrain]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

*possible
*vinyl

Chances of it spreading - mold needs moisture and darkness to spread. give it those, and it may.
Try s bleach solution or a "scotch brite" pad... or a magic eraser... see what that does. seat looks like it's seen better days though

I'm concidering buying this boat online just by the images. it's located 900 mile away from me. I believe I am reduced to a online purchase from areas where this type of boat is more popular.

seams like this 1997 boat has been neclected.

This stuff is Great for removing mildew and mold from Vinyl Seats.

nice suggestion, doe's this product contain cholrine
as stated below? and is only available from a actualle boat store?

That's weird, because I washed my seats with bleach 2 years ago when I got them and they'd been sitting outside uncovered for a decade. The thread is still holding up today...

you must have quaility seat thread.

Like I say just concidering this boat it would be a project boat so I intead on removing carpet.

if the nasty carpet created the mold would be safe to say the wooden floor is also infested w/ mold?

curious if a boat can be condemened if totally infested w/ mold?

Thanks Guys for advice
STB

 

[Woodonglass]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

Whoa!!! I would never recommend spending $900 on a boat, sight unseen. Your $900 could turn into $3,000 in a very short time. I would suggest you continue to have patience and use Search All of Craigslist to find something closer to you that you could personally go and inspect before laying out any cash on a purchase. That's just my humble opinion.

 

[zopperman]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

Whoa!!! I would never recommend spending $900 on a boat, sight unseen. Your $900 could turn into $3,000 in a very short time. I would suggest you continue to have patience and use Search All of Craigslist to find something closer to you that you could personally go and inspect before laying out any cash on a purchase. That's just my humble opinion.

This.

AND i have probably pretty bad thread, but if you rinse the bleach off, you'll be fine.

 

[Tahorover]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

This stuff is Great for removing mildew and mold from Vinyl Seats.

Bleach, washing soda and water:
http://www.x14brand.com/files/pdf/msds-x1423567841.pdf

 

[thebrain]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

good advice woodonglass I am able to observe images. I can also hire a broker to inspect the boat.

need to check into exactly how involved an inspecter doe's like test engine compression, check for soft floors, transome trailor condition, shipping charges ect.

I live in the South and rarely see 19-21' deep V hulled aluimin boats just smaller aluimins like bass boats or vintage boats.

Craigslist and locale bulliton broads are excellent resouces for locating wanted stuff. what I can't understand about 90% of CLs listing is how little details people know about the boat they have like boat for sale don't email me. kindof funny. will continue to search not to optimistic on a larger deep V hull in the South.
I've been cheaking insurance auctions sure it's a roll of the dice, remember this will be a inexpensive project boat so I'm expecting to redo floor, transome maybe repower all if required or done when required.

I'm not in a big rush happy w/ current boat but when I see exactly the model, year and close match to engine size I get anixious. I've been studying rebuilds and bigger boats in general here at I boats.

I think the winter espesially around Hoilday time boats go for less compared to summer time.


as far as the inital post this mold or mildew appears to be surface funk.

maybe sunshine will kill the funk? then use the cleaner, remember I have limited knowlegde of this vessel.

Thanks Guy's for advice STB

 

[Fireman431]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

Im an upholsterer and can give you a little more insight on that mildew staining...

That mildew started off on the underside of that vinyl and worked it's way to the surface. You can scrub the crap out of it with and chlorine based product and it will lighten up the staining. but the mildew will still be alive and well on the backside of the vinyl, where it's kept hot and moist from the sun and wet foam underneath. The stain and mildew will simply be back in a month or two. The only tru way to kill it is to strip the seat, dry the foam out completely, and clean the vinyl fron and back sides with a chlorine based solution and allow it to dry. However, the permanent damage is done and the seat will be stained forever. Just get it reupholstered. If you go that route, make sure they cover the foam prior to upholstering it with "Slick-eeze", which is a clear soft plastic that keeps the foam from getting wet.

Regarding the bleach & thread issue, if you keep the bleach concentration under 5% in your mixture and rinse with fresh water, you will not have the decay problems with your thread thatg everyones says. I have used a 2% solution for years without the first stitching issue. The idea is to use the bleach as an additive and not the primary ingredient when cleaning. A lot of people just splash raw bleach around their boat and then wonder why stuff is bleached out or rotted. Bleach is a great adjunct to keep your boat clean and mildew free, but 1 cup in a gallon of water is all you ever need. More isn't better...

 

[zopperman]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

Im an upholsterer and can give you a little more insight on that mildew staining...

That mildew started off on the underside of that vinyl and worked it's way to the surface. You can scrub the crap out of it with and chlorine based product and it will lighten up the staining. but the mildew will still be alive and well on the backside of the vinyl, where it's kept hot and moist from the sun and wet foam underneath. The stain and mildew will simply be back in a month or two. The only tru way to kill it is to strip the seat, dry the foam out completely, and clean the vinyl fron and back sides with a chlorine based solution and allow it to dry. However, the permanent damage is done and the seat will be stained forever. Just get it reupholstered. If you go that route, make sure they cover the foam prior to upholstering it with "Slick-eeze", which is a clear soft plastic that keeps the foam from getting wet.

Regarding the bleach & thread issue, if you keep the bleach concentration under 5% in your mixture and rinse with fresh water, you will not have the decay problems with your thread thatg everyones says. I have used a 2% solution for years without the first stitching issue. The idea is to use the bleach as an additive and not the primary ingredient when cleaning. A lot of people just splash raw bleach around their boat and then wonder why stuff is bleached out or rotted. Bleach is a great adjunct to keep your boat clean and mildew free, but 1 cup in a gallon of water is all you ever need. More isn't better...

There should be an upholstery section and this should be a sticky.

 

[thebrain]

Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

Im an upholsterer and can give you a little more insight on that mildew staining...

That mildew started off on the underside of that vinyl and worked it's way to the surface. You can scrub the crap out of it with and chlorine based product and it will lighten up the staining. but the mildew will still be alive and well on the backside of the vinyl, where it's kept hot and moist from the sun and wet foam underneath. The stain and mildew will simply be back in a month or two. The only tru way to kill it is to strip the seat, dry the foam out completely, and clean the vinyl fron and back sides with a chlorine based solution and allow it to dry. However, the permanent damage is done and the seat will be stained forever. Just get it reupholstered. If you go that route, make sure they cover the foam prior to upholstering it with "Slick-eeze", which is a clear soft plastic that keeps the foam from getting wet.

Regarding the bleach & thread issue, if you keep the bleach concentration under 5% in your mixture and rinse with fresh water, you will not have the decay problems with your thread thatg everyones says. I have used a 2% solution for years without the first stitching issue. The idea is to use the bleach as an additive and not the primary ingredient when cleaning. A lot of people just splash raw bleach around their boat and then wonder why stuff is bleached out or rotted. Bleach is a great adjunct to keep your boat clean and mildew free, but 1 cup in a gallon of water is all you ever need. More isn't better...

I'm thinking w/ a seat funked up like this could be hazardous to you'r health if breathing in mold spores correct? I would diffeintly not be sitting on it.
this will be a project boat so I add to the top of list, stuff to do or seal the cushsion in bags to sufficate the spores untill the cleaning process.

you say I can kill the mold from inside out, what is you'r professional opioin on cleaning from inside and outside then reuse same cover and simply stain the cover w/ dye untill eventuale reupholster
Thanks STB

 

[GA_Boater]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

To answer your original post - No.

 

[cyclops2]

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It is possible with straight concentrated bleach. I do it with NO thread problems. Why me ? Because Chaparral had the plastic seats SEWN UP with PLASTIC THREAD. FACT. Very simple solution of a common problem.

Reason We are having problems with mold & mildew is due to 2 years of severe wet rainfall. N J has a new ALL TIME rainfall record. Record mold & mildew in basements also.

So that is why Fireman431 is saying it is spreading from the bottom of the seat area. Right on. Lots of foam seats use the OPEN celled type of foam. The stuff is exactly like a chair made from real Sponges. Also some chairs still use plain old EXT. plywood. Not the best stuff in rainy years.

Be greatfull you do NOT have real leather. White clothes LOVE to wipe off mildew.

I have a Good Humor outfit on sunny days. Whitecolor from long billed hat to sneakers.


Old brain wanders like crazy.

 

[kmarine]

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I have detailed many boats with this problemb. I use straight bleech on a white towel . then I cover the stain with the bleach soaked towel for up to 5 minutes . I also cover the bleach towel with a wet towel to keep it from drying out. This works well on white vinil with mildew stains. the bleech will kill any living thing if exposed long enough making it safe to sit on. you may have to watch the colored materials to make sure they will not bleech out. (I have never expierienced this myself) After removing the stains I rinse numerous times with clean water to remove residue. I follow up later with 303 protectant to help restore the plasticil that the bleach has dried out to make the vynil soft again and keep from prematurely cracking. I did this on mt 38 ft wellcraft. the seats were black from neglect when i purchased the boat two years ago, and i have not had any stains return after two years of service.

 

[Fireman431]

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Re: is it possiable to completely remove mold on a vinale seat?

I'm thinking w/ a seat funked up like this could be hazardous to you'r health if breathing in mold spores correct?....stuff to do or seal the cushsion in bags to sufficate the spores untill the cleaning process.

Don't confuse mold with mildew. Mold is a product of a slightly moist enviroment with minimal airflow and ambient temperatures. Mildew is a result of excessive water, no airflow, and humid climate. Mildew doesn't release spores like dry mold does. Not really an issue unless you are allergic to it.

you say I can kill the mold from inside out, what is you'r professional opioin on cleaning from inside and outside then reuse same cover and simply stain the cover w/ dye untill eventuale reupholster

To throughly clean this cushion, here is what I would do:

1) Remove the trim work and staples from the underside of the seat and back cushions
2) Peel the skins off of the seats and put them in a laundry tub or large sink with approx 10 gallons warm water and 10-12 cups of Clorox Color Safe bleach. Allow to soak for 10-15 minutes.
3) Drain the water, refill and use warm water / laundry soap and hand launder the cushions until the staining is minimal. It will not come out completely.
4) Squeeze the foam as much as possible to get out any water and stand the cushions on end to allow them to drain off completely. Allow 2-3 days of this with them sitting in the sun.
5) Peel back a bit of the foam and inspect the wood base and back to see if the wood is moist or if there is any rot. If it's wet, replace it. Period. If it's just moist, allow 10 days in an open air environment with the foam completely removed for it to completely dry out.
6) While the covers dry out, inspect the stitching to make sure that all is still intact. Have any stitching issues repaired at an upholstery shop, since I can pretty much guarantee that you don't have an industrial walking foot machine and UV treated thread
7) Cover the foam seat & back with plastic (slip-eeze or even a trashbag will do in a pinch) and replace covers over the pieces
8) Use a hair dryer to heat and soften the covers to get them flexible enough to return to their normal shape. Careful with the heat...a little too much will bubble the vinyl and ruin it
9) Staple the covers back on with a pneumatic stapler and stainless steel staples
10) Replace the trim with SS staples

----or----- you can ship me the seats and I'll reupholster them back to factory specs for you. I'll cut you a great deal...[/QUOTE]

 

[oops!]

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woah here......just hang on a minit....

first off.......thank you for your expertise fireman.



the op stated that he was willing to do a full restoration to the boat........gut....re power.....

this means the upholstery will be the last thing to do.....

my suggestion is .....if you are looking for a a project.....find the hull you want....get a good trailer with it......the rest is just man hours and money.

you are worried about upholstery when the structural integrity of the boat should be the main concern right now.... the interior is the icing on the cake, and is one of the last things you do to a rebuild, with the cost negligible compared to a total re-power.

 

[cyclops2]

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Perfect logic oops!

What happened to the engine ?

 

[Fireman431]

Re: is it possible to completely remove mold on a vinyl seat?

It is possible with straight concentrated bleach. I do it with NO thread problems. Why me ? Because Chaparral had the plastic seats SEWN UP with PLASTIC THREAD. FACT. Very simple solution of a common problem.

Not only Chaparral. Many interior companies use it. It's nothing more than monofilament thread. Same as fishing line. The problem with it is the same as with your fishing line, it degrades very quickly when left exposed to salt water environment and UV rays from the sun. Most places will use it strictly on outdoor furniture and the random times when color matched UV thread isn't available. I don't know if they make a UV treated monofilament line or not. I rarely use it anymore.