Interior Questions

[Firebolt420]

I have gotten to the point of starting on the interior and I have a question and feel more questions rumbling around. I am going to be redoing the original seats, the rounds are in good shape but the bottom is shot.


I was going to just replace the wood with wood, but then someone suggested using plastic. I love that idea, but not sure what plastic to use UHMW, HDMW, just common acrylic, or something else. When I put them back in I am going to be mounting them on swivels so that when sitting on that Quiet Cool cove they can be rotated to create a nice conversation pit.

Then there are the stands, I am going to be cutting them out today. Well the drivers one anyway it was full of water, about 3.5 gal to be exact.





It's a good thing I have plenty of grinding discs.

 

[DeepBlue2010]

From the look under the deck, I would say this boat needs a lot more than just some cosmetic repairs. I hope you checked the structural members of the boat deck, transom, stringers and bulkheads.

anyway, you can use Starboard material as the base for those seats but this material is expensive. Maybe other member here are aware of cheaper and as strong material you can use. I assume your friend gave you this advice - to use plastic - so you don't need to worry about rot in the future. You still can use ply and prep it and protect it right and it will last you for more than you care for it to.

Use marine or exterior grade ply. WoodOnGlass - an experienced iBoats member - uses a "recipe of Boiled linseed oil, mineral spirits and polyurethane varnish equal equal parts mixed and saturated on the wood and let dry 48 hrs"

You can also use thin epoxy if you want. In all cases, pay very close attention to the edges of the wood. Make sure you cover these really good.

 

[Woodonglass]

Uhmmm, Yeah, I'd be checking under the deck too and once I determinied it was A-Ok, I'd be cutting out a little bit bigger section so I could get a reinforcement piece situated under the Nuts so I could bolt the seat base to the floor and not have to Screw it down. Much stronger that way. Here's the oldtimer's Recipe...

 

[Firebolt420]

Yeah, there might be a slight structural issue. I'm not sure so I'm going to grab a box of puppies bolt a motor up on the back and take her out just above the dam and see how she handles 5'-6' chop.


But really, the Starboard is what I was looking for. In using Starboard would I want to completely glass that in for rigidity or just cut the size for the seat base and tab it into the seat round?

 

[Firebolt420]

Thanks Woodonglass,
I think I will use that for the driver side stand and stick with wood for the stand and the Starboard for just the seat frame itself.

 

[Woodonglass]

Sooo, are you saying you've restored the transom AND the Stringers for this Boat already???

 

[Firebolt420]

Not yet, in the process, still grinding, I just wanted to get the seat bases and any glass work I have to do on the seats at the same time. The deck is bad aft of where the ski pole was here and is all being replaced. Plus the seat pics were taken before any work was done back there.



The stringer is slightly compromised at the end so I figured this would be a good time to replace all that and not worry about it again.

The front seats have good rounds to them but I am 0 confident that I can upholster these so I'd just rebuild the frames and farm out the rest. The rear bench is all in all "ok" it just needs recovered and that would just be done with the seats. I don't want to slop together anything for this.

sorry I am a compulsive smart ass and this doesn't read well in these forums and I forget this a lot. So there are no puppies in danger of going over the dam.

 

[DeepBlue2010]

You cant glass over Starboard material. You cant even glue it. Nothing will stick to it. They say there is a special kind of adhesive on their website but i didn't try it. I use mechanical fasteners only with Starboard

 

[Firebolt420]

You cant glass over Starboard material. You cant even glue it. Nothing will stick to it. They say there is a special kind of adhesive on their website but i didn't try it. I use mechanical fasteners only with Starboard

Thanks, I have looked up some prices and since I already have the wood and 2 out of three of the old timers method I think we have a winner.

 

[Woodonglass]

Ok so the transom, stringers, and Deck are All out of the boat and you'll be putting them all back in??? If that's the case then I Highly recommend putting reinforcements under the areas where the seats will go with SS T-Nuts as described and Glassing it all in. NO Od Timers needed if you'll be glassing and sealing with resin. I thought this was a patch job but if you have access and are replacing everything then it's an easy fabrication.

 

[DeepBlue2010]

WoG, I think he is referring to the seat base as the bottom piece of the seat where you set not the seat base where you mount it on

 

[jigngrub]

Yeah, there might be a slight structural issue. I'm not sure so I'm going to grab a box of puppies bolt a motor up on the back and take her out just above the dam and see how she handles 5'-6' chop.

Kittens and small children are going to demand equal time when they find out puppies are having all the fun!

 

[Scott Danforth]

I consider the seat base structural, so I would not recommend starboard. It is simply highly priced HDPE. Same stuff they make plastic decking out of. You also can not glue to it and staples work their way out if you can even get them to fire into it without bending over. Wood is a better choice for the seat bases

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

Yeah, there might be a slight structural issue. I'm not sure so I'm going to grab a box of puppies bolt a motor up on the back and take her out just above the dam and see how she handles 5'-6' chop.

Kittens and small children are going to demand equal time when they find out puppies are having all the fun!

:laugh:
As usual I'm no help just wanted to thank you guys for my morning laugh.

 

[Firebolt420]

Yeah WoG, the Admiral wanted to save the original seats and we have gotten a low end quote for recovering so the save the seats campaign went out the window.
I have a set of seats from another project that will fill in here quite well.

And yes for a guide of my terminologies base =

And Stands =

LoL, I felt so bad that the kittens felt left out that I took them Kayaking today. They seemed to enjoy it from inside the burlap sack.

 

[Woodonglass]

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