Infants and Boats?

ricohman

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Re: Infants and Boats?

I've taken my kids everywhere.
That said, I'm an old grouch well into my 40's. And having an infant aboard is exactly the opposite of what I want now.
However, having my 20 and 18 year old sons aboard brings a big smile to my face.
 

Jonnybbad

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They sell infant lifejackets and you will definitely want to purchase them. My buddy is in the Coast Guard and he says if they find someone without lifejackets for children they will fine you to the fullest extent.

I find it interesting that literally every DNR violation here in MN and in WI are a full on misdemeanor, while the only petty I could find actually happened to be not putting a life jacket on a child. That seems a little backwards if you ask me.
 

NWJeff

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Great words Home Cookin'!!! This has actually been a very touchy subject with me and the old lady although she actually likes boating enough that she's not going to let the little guy hinder that all too much! I have a 13 yr old and a 3 yr old, both boys. The little man is the one i'm concerned about keeping entertained long enough to enjoy the day out in the water. I recently got our first family boat and have been sure to keep the boys outside helping me clean it and feeling like they're involved in the process of getting it dialed in for the summer. 3 yr old loves being outside with us in it, but I have yet to have him in the water with it. You said there are alot of specific tricks and tips but weren't going to go into them, so I wanted to reach out and say I'm 150% interested in hearing what has worked for you in order to give them a try. I actually read your post to the lady last night and we both had a pretty good laugh at the truth and humor in it hahaha... Thanks for any input!
 

Home Cookin'

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well we're going from infants to three year olds--a totally different critter. Anyway.

Most of it is like other parenting and dealing with their ways. But depending on your circumstances you may not be able to stop the boat trip and do something else instantly. So get him prepared in advance for the all day adventure.

One of your biggest enemies can be the PFD so you want one for him that's comfortable but more important, that he will want to wear. Maybe let him pick one out from the store. Wear it while working on the boat (call it a boat coat). Wear yours (it's not what's taught; it's what's caught). Before you buy, test it on him with him sitting down--the ones that ride up over their ears are bad.

Two three year olds are easier than one. Just be sure the friend isn't a whiner.

Tons of juice and snacks. Tons.

Water guns for pirates.

Watch the sun but don't make him wear stupid hats.

Remember, it's Short Attention-span Theater. So don't spend hours rigging up for fishing and then get mad when they're over it in 20 minutes. And if they fish, you won't.

Old people like sitting and riding and looking. Boys like going fast, jumping waves, and doing stuff. Be a boy.

Give them Important Tasks. Save small projects (or even make some) for them. Put him in charge of something major like guarding the dock lines.


I assume the 13 year old is engaged in boating; that can be a big influence. He should know how to drive the boat. Keep him interested so you won't lose him to teen stuff. Give him big responsibilities.
 

dugfab

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Infants are such a hassle !!!! : ) out of all of these pic's, the one that scares me the most is the one driving home from the lake. I believe there is a much more inherent risk on the roadways to and from then there will ever be on the inland lakes we visit. We took our daughter out for the first time at the age of 5 months she is now 13 months and loves being on the water.
 

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Home Cookin'

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cute baby. I used to have a couple like that but they turned into teenagers.

Good idea with the beanbag chair.

As for safety, you're right; it's kinda like how we are afraid to fly when the biggest danger is driving to the airport.
 

briguybro

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Thought I'd reply to this older thread rather than start a new one.

I work in the medical field and am currently finishing up medical school. I also have two children, a 2 year old and a 5 month old. Both of them have been in boats since they were about 6 weeks old. I have spent several hours researching this topic and did not find any published research about infants on boats. Anything I have found on the subject has been purely opinion and speculation. Here's my thoughts based off of my knowledge and experience.

Many people speculate that rough waters might cause shaken baby syndrome, but that extremely unlikely and never has been documented to actually have occurred. Shaken baby syndrome requires an extreme amount of shaking to cause a repetitive whiplash injury to the brain. It is caused by literally holding a baby in the air and shaking it back and forth as hard as your can. A boat ride, bike ride, off road jeep ride, or being in a baby backpack while the parent is jogging is not likely to generate enough force to cause any brain injury (unless you crash or fall). These are simply internet myths which people believe because some very official looking websites have posted them.

CA Division of Boating and Waterways is one example of an opinion which is not based on facts, but is still presented as "official." It gives a recommendation, but the reason to it is opinionated based on personal comfort rather than safety.

Is it a good idea to take my infant boating?

It is not advised to take a baby boating before they are at least six months of age and can sit up on their own. Generally, babies will not be comfortable in a life jacket when they cannot sit up. A reclined infant in a life jacket will experience great discomfort from the poor fit of most infant life jackets. Once they can sit up, some of the pressure around the neck of the life jacket will be relieved.

My babies were very comfortable in their life jackets and the sound of the motor even lulled them to sleep. We just had to hold them the entire time could not set them down comfortably, even while anchored and not moving. Each child is different.

The American Academy of Pediatrics, on the other hand, gives limited boating advice for infants and children based on factual data. They simply say that infants and children of all ages need a life jacket that fits them properly. This is probably the only age limiting safety factor for infants on boats because most infant life preservers have a minimum weight requirement of 18 pounds. The other AAP recommendation is to have infants under 6 months wear UV resistant long sleeves and a wide brim hat to minimize sun screen usage. I would give that same recommendation to older children and adults too.


My ultimate advice is to base the decision on whether or not to bring an infant aboard on the parents desires. Babies CAN safely go on boats, but will the parents enjoy the trip while taking care of them? My wife and I love having our kids with us and thrive on outdoor family activities. We took our daughter camping at Lake Powell for 6 days in 100 degree weather when she was only 4 months. She loved it and actually learned to laugh while we were there. We just had to take safety precautions such as life jackets, extra feedings to prevent dehydration, and keeping her cool by constantly wetting her clothes and keeping her in the shade. We also had an escape plan and understood that we would end the trip early if there were any sign of trouble. She had been on many shorter boat and camping trips building up to this one. It was extra work, but at no time did I feel unsafe. We also have taken both children backpacking, biking, and snowshoeing. We are giving them the best childhood experience possible and I hope other parents will make the same sacrifices for their children.
 

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You raise a very good overall point and that is to ask, "Why am I taking the infant boating?" It will be a lot of work for the parents, stress (natural) for the mother and only marginally interesting to the infant. Does the extra work and additional restrictions (including quick termination of trip) cancel the pleasure of boating? Are there alternatives? Or it is the only way to get out on the boat?

Only the individual couple can weigh those factors.

Now, that's just as to infants--the toddlers, although a lot of work, are a blast and they do get something out of it. A sliding scale as they get older.
 

phillyg

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We took out the youngest grandchild at 16 mos. Must be attached to an adult at all times. Never go offshore with any kids.
 
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