How Stupid Do They Think We Are?????

SlowlySinking

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One major manufacturer of anti-freeeze has released a new product whereby the water is already mixed in the plastic bottle and provides the recommended 50:50 mix. The best part is the cost, only $5.99 a gallon here on Long Island, so you're actually paying $12 a gallon for the actual anti-freeze, or $6 for 1/2 gallon of anti-freeze and $6 for 1/2 gallon of water. Now I realize that mixing anti-freeze and water isn't rocket science and I don't claim to be the smartest or most ambitious person but this is a little too much even for me. Am I being picky? Comments??
 

Luna Sea

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Re: How Stupid Do They Think We Are?????

Ya, I don't get that either. "Already mixed for the same low price" LMAO
 
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DJ

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SlowlySinking,<br /><br />Don't underestimate the American public when it comes to "convenience". It will be a hit. Kinda sad-huh?<br /><br />Also, I would be willing to bet that 20% of the people that buy coolant from a convenience store/gas station know that you're supposed to mix water with it.
 

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Re: How Stupid Do They Think We Are?????

Hello Everyone,<br /><br />I'm moving this topic to-Nothing To Do With Boats.<br /><br />It fits better there.
 

ob

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Re: How Stupid Do They Think We Are?????

Did that major manufacturer of the premixed anti-freeze just do a merger with Dasani? :D <br />I agree ,it is kinda sad.
 

ebbtide176

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hmm, lemme see. since it was @ $7 gal here last yr, then 1/2gal antifreeze should be $3.50 of the cost... wow! $2.50 for 1/2gal water! that must be some special water like charcoal filtered, mountain spring fed, glacier runoff, exotic stuff... :mad:
 

RICKRICK1

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I have seen the commercial for this stuff and its hyped by a blond. :eek:
 

SlowlySinking

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Hi Ebb, you're right, it is special water, it's demineralized, a fancy term for condensed steam, which is the same stuff we use (should) in our battery or the wife's steam iron, although I never use it in the battery, and I don't do ironing. But no matter, as someone noted, it's the convenience factor that will sell it. <br /><br />Hi RICKRICK1, hyped by a blonde, well, two blonds were walking down the street when they found a pocketbook, one looked in the wallet for ID while the other opened a makeup compact, looked in the mirror and said, "wow, the owner looks just like me."
 

ebbtide176

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well good then. and maybe if they throw in a 'women in waders' calendar, everyone of us will go out and buy some. ;) and talking about blondes....<br /><br /> ANY LAST REQUESTS <br />Three women are about to be executed. One's a brunette, one's a redhead, and one's a blonde. Two guards brings the brunette forward, and the executioner asks if she has any last requests.<br />She says no, and the executioner shouts, "Ready . . . Aim . . ."<br />Suddenly the brunette yells, "earthquake!!" <br />Everyone is startled and looks around. She manages to escape.<br />The angry guards then bring the redhead forward, and the executioner asks if she has any last requests.<br />She says no, and the executioner shouts, "Ready . . . Aim . . ."<br />The redhead then screams, "tornado!!"<br />Yet again, everyone is startled and looks around. She too escapes execution. <br />By this point, the blonde had figured out what the others did. The guards bring her forward, and the executioner asks if she has any last requests. <br />She also says no, and the executioner shouts, "Ready . . . Aim . . ." <br />The blonde shouts, "fire!!"
 
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DJ

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Can anyone imagine how much $$$ the stuff would be worth if carried the name "Starbucks". :cool:
 

roscoe

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Just wait, Next year they will come out with a new version of the product. It will be "concentrated", just add water. <br />It will be sold in one gallon jugs for $10.99.
 

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Right on roscoe... :D <br /><br /> There's a Sucker born every minute... :rolleyes:
 

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I am constantly amazed at the disdain so many people show for capitalism and a free market economy.<br />This product will not sell if there is no demand for it. And the price is not determined by what it costs to produce, but rather by supply and demand relationships. That is the basis of our society and economy.<br />Why someone has not done this previously is the mystery to me. Surely there is a market for pure anti-freeze, for shops and individuals that prefer to mix their own, but just as surely there is a market for pre-mixed--something that can be added on the go with no fuss nor muss.<br />The price will be determined by the demand.<br />What could possibly be wrong with a system like that???<br /><br />John
 

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This would work best in a gas station/convenience store setting. If I'm getting gas, and find that I have a leak or if my coolant is low, where do I find another jug to mix the pure antifreeze in? In fact, antifreeze is the only car fluid sold in stores that ISN'T ready to use when you buy it. <br /><br />How many thousands of products that we buy already have water mixed in them? Do we complain that Coca Cola isn't sold in 1 oz containers of pure syrup? How about a big spoonfull of coffee grounds to go with that Krispy Kreme? Windshield washer fluid is probably 95% water... don't believe me? Try using it as a de-icer in the dead of winter.<br /><br />I commend the person who marketed this! It would be my opinion that it makes the guy saving $3.00 playing "mad chemist" in the 7-11 parking lot, look alot more stupid than the person buying the pre-mixed.
 

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I too have seen this premixed antifreeze and I thought I heard it being pitched as a topper-offer, in other words, something that will be sold more at gas stations(like Moose_Miller said). We wouldn't use this if we were changing antifreeze, but maybe for the people that check levels at fill-ups it would be very handy. The last radiator I changed(my work truck) I tried to shoot for 50-50 but I doubt I hit it.P.D.S.
 

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Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the public.
 

SlowlySinking

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UPDATE: I checked with a friend who manages an Auto Parts Store, the pre-mixed anti-freeze has become a best seller. Seems that people will gladly pay extra $$$ for the convenience of not having to bother, that's why I asked in the original post,"am I being picky?, guess I am. It just bothers me to see this when I'm the type of guy who repairs everything I own, with due respect to you fellows who own repair businesses or work for one, I never ever pay anyone to fix anything, if I don't know how to fix it I learn how, saved me tons of bux over the years. Example: my daughters car had an intermittant check engine light, on my Fords I used a paper clip to check the codes, doesn't work on the OBD-ll system, the dealer wanted $100 to run the computer check and then there would be the cost for parts and repairs at $95 an hour, I'm sorry but you gotta be kidding. I hit the web, found a site that sells a OBD-ll code reader kit for $75, bought it, built it, found the problem, and now I have the code reader for life. Just my 2 cents worth.
 

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To DIY's and others, like us who participate in forums like this, "ready-to-use" anti-freeze at a higher price obviously seems ridiculous. Today, a vast majority of people simply don't have a use for it and rarely buy it. Some new vehicles have warning devices to indicate a "low coolant level" and its people who need to respond to instances like this that make up the market for ready-to-use products. <br /><br />In no way would I try to justify the higher price the manufacturer in this case is charging. We can only hope that all of them don't move in this direction, and then discontinue the 'concentrated' variety.<br /><br />But in fairness to the manufacturer, only a small portion of the cost of a gallon of anti-freeze is the liquid itself. First, only about half of the retail price actually goes to the producer, and labor, over-head, packaging and distribution eat up half of that. The long and short of it is this.....both products cost damn near the same amount to produce and distribute. And believe it or not, unless the new ready-to-use version, that requires additional manufacturing steps to prepare, sells enough units to achieve a reasonable economy of scale,...it could cost more to produce. I'm confident that market dynamics will ultimately prevail !!<br /><br />For folks like me that use 8-10 gallons of anti-freeze a year, and buy 5 at a time when the price is right, I'd hate to see the "concentrated' version go out of vogue. But, why didn't the "concentrated" versions of windshield washer fluid ever catch on?....because a large enough group of buyers doesn't want to dink around mixing concoctions in the dead of winter! Besides, how does the average 'Joe' make a 50/50 antifreeze mix in the parking lot after walking out of WalMart, to satisfy the "Low Coolant Lvel" warning on his dash or the dirt strieked shieldshield awaiting washer fluid? Here's my contribution to higher margin, value-added products....sell every gallon of full strength anti-freeze with an empty one gallon jug, for an additional $10.00! Does Walmart have frost-free sillcocks?
 

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I bought a Gal. to put in my trunk for emergencies.<br />there isn't always water avail. to mix when your<br />on the side of the road overheated.<br />just my .02, <br />M.Y.
 

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Why does all this remind me of the toilet paper and Kleenex debacle of a few years ago?<br /><br />First they start adding things- lotion and fragrance, and charge us more. Then they charge us an even higher price to get "scent free" products. <br /><br />They create reasons to charge more, and then create a solution to a problem that they just created. <br /><br />I also dispise the way the gov't and auto industry are constantly raising the base price of vehicles by adding more gimicks and "safety features."
 
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