How Not To Pull Your Yacht Out of the Water

[jkust]

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The never showed the boat.

 

[WIMUSKY]

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They didn't?

 

[smoedog]

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So what? It still holds air, and rolls, right?

Thats a picture of my buddy leaning up against an AN-124 the russians were flying in. Every single tire, inboard and out, were bald for the entire circumference, some even showing cord. We asked about them and their response was "it's good"

 

[emilsr]

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The never showed the boat.

If they had, it would have probably looked like it had a 30-day party aboard...because there was.

 

[26aftcab454]

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They should have used the Toyota Tundra they used to pull the Space Shuttle with.

 

[jkust]

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They should have used the Toyota Tundra they used to pull the Space Shuttle with.

Ha Ha that commercial annoys me...'Tundra towed the space shuttle what does your boat weigh?'

 

[littlerayray]

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They should have used the Toyota Tundra they used to pull the Space Shuttle with.

at least the tires wouldnt be bald:facepalm:

 

[TilliamWe]

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They should have used the Toyota Tundra they used to pull the Space Shuttle with.

That's a good one! Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[rpsloan]

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Wrong equipment for the job. First issue was the tractor was a single screw and light duty. Had they had a properly spec'd truck with a 4 speed auxiliary transmission couple with a 18 speed main and 5.25 rear ends and another truck spec'd the same setup for a double pull like we do with super loads they could have walked it out with no issues. Some people you just can't teach to do things right with the proper equipment.

 

[Nos4r2]

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I've driven those Renaults for many thousands of miles.It's a 44 tonne rated tractor unit. Horrible drive but it should have pulled the boat out-in crawler it shouldn't even have needed any throttle.They use the same drivetrain to pull 80 tonnes on special types in Europe.That yacht doesn't weigh anywhere near that.

Something else was wrong. It looked like the trailer was stuck and/or the Renault's difflock wasn't working and it had lost traction.

 

[rpsloan]

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I've driven those Renaults for many thousands of miles.It's a 44 tonne rated tractor unit. Horrible drive but it should have pulled the boat out-in crawler it shouldn't even have needed any throttle.They use the same drivetrain to pull 80 tonnes on special types in Europe.

If you look closely the first rear axle is a pusher and is not touching the ground nor does it have a differential. That axle is not a live axle and only used to carry weight. This the truck only has one power axle which is why it got stuck because it didn't have the traction. If it was a 3 axle with a power divider then the outcome would likely of been different.

I have been a heavy hauler for 10 years. It all boils down to right equipment for the job. Basically they sent a mini truck to do the job of a Peterbilt. It ended up being a costly lesson. Thankfully nobody died or was severely injured.

 

[TilliamWe]

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... Basically they sent a mini truck to do the job of a Peterbilt...

I would have said "Autocar", but I am not even sure they make them anymore!

 

[emilsr]

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I've driven those Renaults for many thousands of miles.It's a 44 tonne rated tractor unit. Horrible drive but it should have pulled the boat out-in crawler it shouldn't even have needed any throttle.They use the same drivetrain to pull 80 tonnes on special types in Europe.That yacht doesn't weigh anywhere near that.

Something else was wrong. It looked like the trailer was stuck and/or the Renault's difflock wasn't working and it had lost traction.

I'm going with stuck. They pulled the front end off the truck and the boat didn't move.

 

[rpsloan]

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Autocar is still around they were owned by Volvo until around 2001. They specialize in making Vocational Cabovers for refuse hauling and other specialty trucks.

Sorry for going off topic for a second.

 

[littlerayray]

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ive been thinking of the outcome and i think the trailer dropped off the edge of the ramp and was wedged cuz those 3 trucks should have pulled it out no matter what the first truck was.

they had it hooked to a tow truck for gods sakes and those are meant to pull and they tore apart the frame.
so it wasnt brakes, it wasnt bad equipment the trailer dropped off the edge of the ramp.
and rather then float the yacht off and pull the trailer out they decided to use brute force.

 

[Nos4r2]

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If you look closely the first rear axle is a pusher and is not touching the ground nor does it have a differential. That axle is not a live axle and only used to carry weight. This the truck only has one power axle which is why it got stuck because it didn't have the traction. If it was a 3 axle with a power divider then the outcome would likely of been different.

I have been a heavy hauler for 10 years. It all boils down to right equipment for the job. Basically they sent a mini truck to do the job of a Peterbilt. It ended up being a costly lesson. Thankfully nobody died or was severely injured.

I've been a trucker longer than you have
I know exactly what the truck is-it's a 380 or 400hp Renault Premium. It pulls the maximum allowed on the road in the EU without special permission from the governments. I'm in the UK, I drive them regularly (exactly the same vehicle but with the steering wheel on the correct side) and it's one that's used extensively here and across the EU. You don't get Peterbilts/Whites/Kenworths etc over here as they won't pass the emissions standards.
If you notice, it doesn't seem to actually be doing anything during the pull. My betting is either the left rear wheel was spinning and you can't see it (which would mean the difflock is broken or they're too dumb to use it) or it's broken down and/or the trailer is stuck.

It also hasn't got enough weight on the drive axle.
The lift axle on a Premium will automatically come down once it gets to 18,000 kilos on the tractor unit. You can't lift the axle when when it does that-all you can do is an air dump which means the suspension on that axle doesn't carry any weight.

 

[TilliamWe]

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... the EU. You don't get Peterbilts/Whites/Kenworths etc over here as they won't pass the emissions standards...

And we don't get your European diesel cars, because they won't pass our emissions standards. Doesn't make them better or worse.

What is your maximum allowable load in the EU? I ask, because in the United States that truck, even with the additional axle forward of the drive axle, wouldn't be rated to carry our max load of 80,000lbs. It's too short, doesn't have enough tires, and just plain ain't big enough. You can put in all the horsepower you want, it don't make them able to pull heavy loads.

That all said, the one guy is staring down at the tire on the trailer, so my guess is that it's in a hole and "good an' stuck!" Floating the boat was the only thing that was going to help, or extending the ramp.

 

[OllieC]

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I've driven those Renaults for many thousands of miles.It's a 44 tonne rated tractor unit. Horrible drive but it should have pulled the boat out-in crawler it shouldn't even have needed any throttle.They use the same drivetrain to pull 80 tonnes on special types in Europe.That yacht doesn't weigh anywhere near that.

Something else was wrong. It looked like the trailer was stuck and/or the Renault's difflock wasn't working and it had lost traction.

To many Yacht "Power Loaders" at that ramp location.

 

[TilliamWe]

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To many Yacht "Power Loaders" at that ramp location.

LOL!!! Good one!

 

[Nos4r2]

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And we don't get your European diesel cars, because they won't pass our emissions standards. Doesn't make them better or worse.

What is your maximum allowable load in the EU? I ask, because in the United States that truck, even with the additional axle forward of the drive axle, wouldn't be rated to carry our max load of 80,000lbs. It's too short, doesn't have enough tires, and just plain ain't big enough. You can put in all the horsepower you want, it don't make them able to pull heavy loads.

That all said, the one guy is staring down at the tire on the trailer, so my guess is that it's in a hole and "good an' stuck!" Floating the boat was the only thing that was going to help, or extending the ramp.

I'd far rather we GOT American trucks over here.The emissions standards here for diesel trucks are so high that we've got exhaust gas recycling on everything, plus an evil substance called AdBlue that kills the NOX. Pretty much all that comes out of our exhausts is steam. It's got so crazy they're increasing combustion temperature to the point that the manufacturers had problems stopping the coolant cracking and reforming.
The trucks are a nightmare to work on too.I doubt there'll be any of these about restored in 50 years as there's too many electronic monitors on them. My M.A.N. decided to have a small fit the other day when it dropped to -9 centigrade and the lights looked like a fairground on the dash.

Max load over here is 97,000lbs or 44,000 kilos. The trucks really work pulling that round back lanes and hills, but our max length is shorter than yours due to the road network. Anything with the motor in front of the cab is rare here as we can't legally pull a 45' trailer with them and nobody wants them anyway-you end up further over the other side of the road to get round bends.Your roads are heaven compared to ours.