How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

samagee

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

They aren't even soldiers. They are innocent civilians who went over to help make things better, and make an extra buck.<br /><br />Why are these men wearing hoods in the pictures? Are they someone important and they don't want to be recognized? What are they afraid of?
 

rolmops

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

The Israeli point of view is practical.(Israel did sign the Geneva Convention)<br />Do what you have to do,without causing lasting damage, if it can save the life of a hostage or prevent loss of life. Never allow sadistic people in the prisons.Leave interogations to psychologists and have these same psychologists keep a real close eye on the prison guards,because it is very easy to fall prey to feelings of hatred.<br />However,it would be false to say that no mistakes are made.
 

18rabbit

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

The latest military person to the charged in the Iraqi prisoner abuse hoopla has 7 charges leveled against him, including adultery. The pentagon does not have a definition for the crime of sexual assault. You can figure it out from there.
 

cmyers_uk

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

You should treat them using the same conditions you want your servicemen treated with when caught by the otherside.<br /><br />Catch a soldier treat him as the Geneva convention says. <br /><br />Catch a terrorist do what you like he gave up his rights.<br /><br />Catch an Iraqi steeling from another iraqi dont abuse him
 

Homerr

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

I believe our interrogators should be able to do whatever it takes to get the information. War is war. Period. I really could care less what those prisoner's had done to them. <br /><br />Were our troops out of line for what they done? Yes, I suppose so but they needed to get the information by any means necessary.<br /><br />If you Liberals care so much, then go over there yourself and try to reason with the terrorists.<br />Maybe you can all stand around, hold hands, and sing "Kumbaya" ???<br /><br />And nobody else has gone by the Geneva convention since WWII, so toss that out the window.<br /><br />Terrorists don't care about the Geneva convention, so why should we?<br /><br />When our nation cares more about how we disgruntled some prisoners than our own countryman getting his head lopped of... there's something very wrong there.<br /><br />It's time to split some atoms if you ask me!<br /><br /><br /> :mad: <br /><br /><br />H.
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

Homerr, I have said that all along.<br />Put 2 Stealths over there with a big payload and be done with it. Period.
 

Homerr

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

We spend BILLIONS on the weapons and equipment... <br /><br />SO LET'S USE SOME!<br /><br />One small tactical nuke should do. <br />Doesn't matter which city we level... Just one.<br /><br />It worked in Japan... no reason it wouldn't work now.<br /><br />H.
 

TPD211

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

I'm for chemical interrogation. Shoot em up with the latest cocktail developed at Langley and squeeze the information out of em......<br /><br />P.S. No personal digital cameras allowed
 

TPD211

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

We dont need to nuke it, use the bomb that kills living things, like people, but doesnt harm the buildings. Its an air burst bomb that will kill without destroying buildings, bridges, etc.<br /><br />Anyone have more info on this, I'm brain dead right now......
 

LadyFish

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

I have the perfect solution to the Iraq Prisoner problem. Let's turn all the prisons over to the Communist Vietnamese, Chinese and Cubans and throw in a few menapausal women for that matter. Heck we might even throw in a few guys who have been without a boat for a season or two, I know just where to find them. ;)
 

LadyFish

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

Never show up for a gunfight with a knife. :D
 

tylerin

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

throw in a few menapausal women for that matter.
But you've got time to run, they'll kill each other first :D :p
 

LadyFish

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

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True tylerin.
 

rc581

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

i'm with oddjob. instead of dropping bombs, drop a million piglets with parachuts, then sit back and watch the show.... popcorn anyone?
 

cmyers_uk

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

Homerr (or just err!)<br /><br />"I believe our interrogators should be able to do whatever it takes to get the information. War is war. Period. I really could care less what those prisoner's had done to them. "<br /><br />So why the outrage when they lop off a head on video or decapiate 4 American workers it served their purposes hey war is war right?<br /><br />"Yes, I suppose so but they needed to get the information by any means necessary."<br /><br />They were not in many cases getting information they were abusing prisioners for their own gratification there actions have also caused more people to rise up and kill UK & US soldiers. See what happened in Basra that had been quiet.<br /><br />Around the Arab world it is a great advertising campaign to get people to come and attack everyone. Remember that the people that did 9-11 and Be-heading were not all Iraqis. <br /><br />Think carefully about what you are trying to achieve if it is to make America a safer place abusing prisoners will not do it. <br /><br />I am not liberal I think we should kill every single terrorist, but that means going into Syria , Jordan , Saudi , North Korea , Pakistan, Egypt, Iran not just being selective and thinking that the only thread is coming from Iraq.
 

18rabbit

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Re: How much should one be allowed to squeeze?

Homerr – I think the idea of spending the money on all those weapons is so that we don’t have to use them. They should be deterrents. Unfortunately, we may occasionally have to use them and when we do we hope they make enough noise to be noticed as deterrents to other ill-thinking sorts. Some people learn quicker than others. Some can learn through history and some need to learn through experience.<br /><br />The strategic use of nukes is political and thus can never be done again. It is so now political that the defensive use of nukes will only happen by a country that perceives itself as losing and the nukes will be the last ditch effort at survival. I see the Muslim agenda as one of two agendas that are the exceptions that require us to do everything possible to keep nuke (and WMD’s) out of their hands. We are absolutely failing with the other agenda that is an exception.<br /><br />If some of those mushroom-cloud-making deterrents were to be used, how much of the problem would you be willing to clean up? Should we take out just the immediate threat or the whole threat so it never raises its ugly head again? Where do you draw the line between what is a problem and what will likely be a problem? Do we cleanup the just the source of the immediate threat or the all sources of the whole problem? It’s political.<br /><br />But…I like the way you think. ;) <br /><br />SBN – to “be done with it” is going to take more than a couple planeloads. However, we should be able to get those quality digital images of mushrooms that we have been deprived of for so many years. :D
 
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