How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

[greenbush future]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

I gathered from the story that Sam was only trying to unravel the ex's fingers from the daughter's care funds that come from him. I can appreciate that.

My advice is to keep the funds available for Penny's care, put it in a savings account, bond or trust. I understand not wanting the filter of paying through the ex-wife. At least this way he can show his intent of his actions were not to deprive Penny of her needed support, but rather to un-tether them from ex's living expenses...There are court appointed advocates that can over-see the financial needs without the funds going to the mother...maybe contact the courts and see what's available?

When and if Penny needs funds it would be made available too her!

Best post of the debate!! Mom is looking for continued support. Penny is also now an adult and free to live with mom or dad. As long as funds are there for Penny and not mom, life should be good. I'm sure it cost $$ to house Penny, but it sounds as though Dad doesn't trust the ex to actually spend funds on Penny. None of us know the details do we?

 

[avenger79]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

yes but mom is primary care giver therefore able to access funds. it sucks but it is that way.

 

[alldodge]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

Probably should start another thread so the opinions could change but I like to STIR THE POT and see what happens
I am not going to lick the spoon

Take anyone's kid. age what ever let's say 40 years old. Kid doing great making a living doing good for the community. Here comes an accident: he/she falls off a ladder cleaning their gutter and becomes a quadriplegic. Everything the person owns is sold and now the state/fed takes over with care. Why is this different then a child that the court says to take care of by the parent?

Some say the child should be taken care of by the parent forever, now that the non-handicapped child has become handicapped what is the difference?

So someone does well for his family and fate hands him a handicapped child and another does the same thing and fate hands him one later. Should we all be ready to assume the issues of our children forever if something happens? Where does the break happen if there is one? Who decides where the break is?

I hope we can all agree that; If Sam didn't make much money this would not be discussed. Sam would not have been able to afford to go, hire and attorney, and travel back and forth so many times through the years. Sam would not be able to afford to pay much of anything. Should we as parents be willing to give everything we saved for our retirement so our kids will live the best they can?

 

[dingbat]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

A 40 year old, being of sound mine and body, made a decision not to protect his family from a catastrophic event thru insurance, investments, etc.

A disabled child didn't /doesn't have that choice.

When Sam gets tired of supporting penny, he could always relent custody to the state and let the tax payers take over the responsibility.

Fwiw: I have friends that are caring for a 35 year old. They have set up a trust for his care once they are unable to continue care.

 

[alldodge]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

One track mind I see, it's all or nothing. I don't see it that way, and insurance and investments for the 40 year old isn't in the mix. Even if he did have funds when the accident happened, something like this would use up those funds.

A state says you shall provide for your child for the rest of your life. One was handicapped in the beginning, the other happened later in life. Both are single individuals and while there is a moral obligation I do not see a legal one. In Sam's case the state is trying to say there is a legal obligation but I don't think it will hold up under appeal. Well be interesting to see how this plays out

 

[bajaunderground]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

Alldodge,

I can appreciate the "questioning" after all that's what forums are for...discussions!

I do see the differences between the second scenario you presented and the one that started this whole debate. Dingbat makes a valid point in respect to being born with special needs and having it thrust upon you later in life...to me, the legacy of my being is not how much stuff I can accrue, nor is it to retire (yes, I'd like to someday and it's being planned for.). Should something happen to my child/family member, from either scenario, I would make it my responsibility to care for them however I could.

Legally, one may have a fight and one might win, but so what, does that make them a better person? I have never felt it's society's responsibility to take care of me nor my family. I'm glad there are "safety nets" in place, just in case, but if I can and am needed to, I will provide for my family...even if it means never retiring...we all have our own personal beliefs and we all are, mostly, subject to the laws of the land.

I wish your "friend" the best of luck with his legal entanglements. I hope he does the right thing (not the legal thing per se?).

Live by the golden rule (platinum rule if you're in sales!), treat others as you wish to be treated...

 

[alldodge]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

Discussion was good and goes down two courses, legal and moral. One takes the moral side and wants everyone to know this is what they would do and what should be done. The other side takes the legal argument and the should or would does not enter. As with all discussions opinions enter into the mix and the moral majority has the louder voice. Don't plan to discuss further so I say thanks to all, and hope spring comes soon.

 

[bajaunderground]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

Discussion was good and goes down two courses, legal and moral. One takes the moral side and wants everyone to know this is what they would do and what should be done. The other side takes the legal argument and the should or would does not enter. As with all discussions opinions enter into the mix and the moral majority has the louder voice. Don't plan to discuss further so I say thanks to all, and hope spring comes soon.

Ditto!

 

[dingbat]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

Case law on the subject


SupportGuidelines.com | Article: The Duty to Support Adult Disabled Children

 

[WIMUSKY]

Re: How Many Thought Child Support Ended at 18 or 21

Say fellas, the Op said he doesn't want to discuss this issue anymore. Please respect his request.........

Thanks,
Musky

Don't plan to discuss further so I say thanks to all, and hope spring comes soon.