Homophobia

KRS

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So OMC... was the rubber band uncomfortable? :)
 

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JB,<br /><br />I am not taking your post personally, but I still feel the need to clarify.<br /><br />Like may of these things it comes down to semantics. I have said many times I wish no ill will to anyone that behaves decently. Even that word excludes homosexuals for some. Not me. I hope your daughter has a wealth of happiness. I am trying only to define a reaction to what some call the portion of anyone's "lifestyle" or life that is identified with sexual preference. Definitely not all that you are, but it is at least some component.<br /><br />My original comments sound way more harsh than I intended. It was a reaction to the broad-brush thing that you often refer to. The word Homophobe is thrown at anybody that is uncomfortable with any component of homosexual anything. I was trying (poorly) to differentiate a portion that has to do with a more visceral reaction than a logical one. I don't know how else to discuss that.
 

Kalian

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Point taken, JB. I didn't realize the implications when I used the word "lifestyle". I wasn't refering to the people, I was refering to the bedroom behaviour, as you put it. I realize the wording in the 2nd and 3rd sentence of my post use the word "them", but the last sentence is the one that defines my views. I'm not always careful with my wording, and I didn't realize the implications of my wording when I posted. I'm sorry if I offended you, I didn't realize that this was an issue that's close to home for you, and I didn't think about the implications of the words I used. <br /><br /> My personal stance on homosexuality is that it is moraly wrong. I have no ill feelings towards the people who practice it, and I believe they should not be denied their rights either. But that opens up a huge controvery. I feel that they should not be afforded more rights than anyone else either. As Dogsdad alluded to, and as I understand it, the homosexuals are more prone to a particular self destructive way of living, it is my understanding that they are more prone to drug use, (I can understand, being an outcast of society, at least before the 90's) and are more prone to risky sexual behaviour, which includes a much higher rate of promiscuity or one night stands, if you will. I realize that lumping people in one group rarely works, and that there are many gays who don't fit the profile I just described. I also realize this is just what I have been taught over the years, doesn't mean I'm right or wrong. I may be completely wrong here, and am open to other thoughts.<br /> Another thing that confuses me is people saying that homosexuality is genetic. I don't think thats true. I think that homosexuality starts out as a choice early in life, then becomes reinforced behaviour. I.E. I think that homosexuality begins as a reaching out for something thats missing in your life. Combine that with the right enviornmental influences, and perhaps a psyche thats not very resistant to outside influence, one might make a decision that becomes a turning point in your sexual orientation.<br /> I never said anything about gays being sexual predators, nor did I imply that.<br /><br /> Feel free to start another thread re this subject if you like. And flame me you like, I can handle it!
 

theriver

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Originally posted by: cpj<br /><br />"You know, half of all gay men are born that way. The other half are sucked into it."<br /><br />LOL<br /><br /> :D
 

waterone1@aol.com

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Gay is not normal or natural. If 100 % of our world was gay, our world would die in one generation. If 100% of our world was hetero...our world would go on forever. While some people may be more prone to violence than others, some people may be more prone to the gay lifestyle than others. It happens, I understand that. I am not God, I have no right to judge anyone nor would I condone violence to any group of people. The one thing I do feel strongly about is that if I cannot say the word God or CHRISTMAS in a public forum such as public school, then I do not think the gay lifestyle should be discussed or condoned in that same forum.
 

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Peace, Kalian and QC. :) <br /><br />There you go again, waterone. There is no "the" gay lifestyle, any more that there is a "the" hetero lifestyle.<br /><br />There are some that are promiscuous, but most are not; some are neurotic but most are not; some are drug abusers but most are not; some are open about their orientation but most are not; some are guilt racked but most are not. . .on and on ad infinitum. Anything you can say about the habits and behavior of any class or group of homo sapien you can say about homosexual and bisexual oriented people. . .Except, of course, that one or two percent of their life they spend doing things that you imagine and find repugnant.<br /><br />Most of them are private about it. They are all around you in your daily life and you have no idea about that private part of their life.
 

Limited-Time

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Originally posted by One More Cast:<br /> Not a wet dream wimperdink, It was really on HBO. I once did have a dream about this chick on....oh never mind, It looks like I already got myself enough greef over this post. :D I can tell you one thing though, Guys don't turn me on so whoever is sending me those emails please stop it! LOL. see I can take it but I can also dish it out. OK I'm done,I'm bored with this post.
I don’t know OMC, I've seen't your picture, "em's right purty ears you got thair" If'n I didn’t knows better I’d say this be one of them thair "Trolls" I jest ain't shur what yer troll’n fer!! :eek: :eek: :)
 

kenimpzoom

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Originally posted by cpj:<br /> You know, half of all gay men are born that way. The other half are sucked into it.
LOL:D<br /><br />I sure am glad we can all discuss this in a mature adult way. :D <br /><br />It does sound like a stupid stupid documentary. I guarantee no "real" homophobe would ever submit to this test.<br /><br />And no, I aint no homophobe, they just want to make me barf.<br /><br />Ken
 

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There is no "the" gay lifestyle, any more that there is a "the" hetero lifestyle
Must take exception, JB. When a male person of "that" persuasion talks with a lisp, adopts feminine hand mannerisms, and sits up front in a "pride" parade...well, that is "lifestyle". That type of lisping is not something one is born with, it's adopted and cultured as part of that lifestyle. I think that is what disgusts most men, rather than what they do in the bedroom. Men should act like men.
 

deeep water

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HEY,,its just wrong ,,its just wronggggggggggggggggg,, im sorry for the confused ones but its wronggggggggggggggggg
 

Dunaruna

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Personally, I don't understand how a man cannot be attracted to the opposite sex but people with same sex attractions are a part of life, no amount of "It just ain't right" or "It isn't natural" is going to change that. In the big scheme of life, a minority of men & women have had gay tendencies since day dot, they do not pose a threat to procreation and never will. The human race is safe.<br /><br />Get over it.
 

BoatBuoy

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On this subject, I'm going to play it safe and just sit on my a$$ and keep my mouth shut.
 

JB

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Yup, stratocaster.<br /><br />As I said, some . . (whatever turns you off) . . . . but most don't.<br /><br />That doesn't make it "their" lifestyle, that makes it lifestyle of some individuals.<br /><br />I don't, for the life of me, understand why some folks get their drawers all bunched up over someone elses ways that do them no harm and threaten them no harm.<br /><br />Now predators are a threat, gay or straight, and must be controlled or zapped. Recruiters are a different issue. Perhaps they should be prosecuted for sexual harrassment just like hetero "recruiters" are.
 

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I knew the gay crowd in college. I was pretty shocked to learn that they had their own little world. Gay friends, gay bars, gay music, gay clubs, gay this, gay that...it went on and on.<br /><br />I also saw that the gay community, at least the female side of them, were quite aggressive and predatory in their efforts to recruit women into the gay lifestyle. I also saw some deep-seated hatred and nastiness towards straights that was downright shocking.<br /><br />Now, there were those who I liked as individuals, and those I did not care for as individuals. But on the whole, this is the behavior I saw. And I definitely saw that there is such a thing as the "gay lifestyle."
 
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