Had carbs rebuilt by a so called decent mechanic???

[Evilrude]

I have a 1978 evinrude 115 it was running rough I took it to a guy that was supposed to be good at carbs . Anyway he did the job I took it home and it took like 10 mins to start once started it will fire up like bam one quick turn of the key . So I took it for a ride up the river it did good ran fine. Next morning couldn't even get it to fire up ??? Called the moron cause they also stripped one of my sparkplugs. So of coarse he says his mechanic did the work he's responsible I said hell with both of them and brought it home. Anyhow it seems to be acting like it's not getting fuel or to much ? With the unburnt fuel that leaked out of the prop area I think it's flooding ?? He did give me a helicoil to fix the plug but other than that I have no clue why it won't fire up? Thanks for reading any help would b great.

 

[boobie]

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You shouldn't have said the hell with them. If you paid any $$$$, you should have taken it back and let them fix it.

 

[racerone]

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Did you ask them to diagnose the problem with the motor ???-------If you took it to have the carburetors cleaned then they did what you asked them to do.-----maybe it is more than a carburetor " problem " ----just my opinion.

 

[oldboat1]

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Yeah, that's a tough position to be in as a non-techician (my experience). But there is such a thing as customer relations, and that shop ain't very good at it, apparently. think I would bring it back to them -- not sure if you should settle for a helicoil, but if so, think they should do that. You guys that are in the business -- shouldn't he at least get a new cylinder head?

 

[Evilrude]

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I took it to them they said it was the carbs they rebuilt carbs I took it home it wouldn't start . Finally did ran fine. Next day wouldn't start took it back to them where it sat for three weeks with my calls being evaded. Then the owner blamed his lacky and pretty much washed his hands of it all. I called his lacky who had nothing good to say of this man and told me to drop it off at his house. Drive by to see what was up and there was trash and junk all over and thought it would be in better hands at my house so I'm looking for suggestions on fixing it myself. Most likely finding another mechanic. Even before I took it to them when it was running like crap it at least would fire up every time???

 

[oldboat1]

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oh oh. that sounds like a money settlement from that owner, something you can try to negotiate, then bring it to a reputable shop if you don't want to mess with fixing it yourself. probably shouldn't hold your breath, but think you ought to go for it.

 

[jimbo_jwc]

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Need members like this calling mechanics morons and judging others mechanical skills by their yard Art Treasures . Think not as I wish I had not read this members plight and bashing .

I took it to them they said it was the carbs they rebuilt carbs I took it home it wouldn't start . Finally did ran fine. Next day wouldn't start took it back to them where it sat for three weeks with my calls being evaded. Then the owner blamed his lacky and pretty much washed his hands of it all. I called his lacky who had nothing good to say of this man and told me to drop it off at his house. Drive by to see what was up and there was trash and junk all over and thought it would be in better hands at my house so I'm looking for suggestions on fixing it myself. Most likely finding another mechanic. Even before I took it to them when it was running like crap it at least would fire up every time???

 

[oldboat1]

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no recourse?

 

[jbjennings]

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There are often cooling problems, bent/broken connectors, corroded wires/connections, bad ignition systems, rotten/leaky fuel lines, etc. that need attention in order to get the motor running and tuned properly. Cleaning a 2-stroke carb is easy but does take time and a little knowledge to get them cleaned fully in all the right places. I'd bet you have multiple problems with your motor. If you're running the same old fuel lines that are being destroyed by ethanol in your fuel, you could dirty up the jets in a properly cleaned carb as quickly as pumping the primer bulb on the fuel line. You could also have water in your fuel. There's any number of things that could be the problem.
JMO,
JBJ

 

[Evilrude]

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Believe it or not there are mechanics out there that aren't exactly responsible or customer friendly you usually don't find out till it's to late. No disrespect to those who are respectable. The gas lines and fuel pump, gaskets and even the tank and fuel is treated with stabil.? I'm going to do a little on my own then get a second opinion. If there is something else wrong I will have to get to the bottom of it.

 

[racerone]

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For certain the name calling / jumping up and down beside the motor will not work.------------Report the results of a compression check !!-------That is the first small step on the path forward.---This motor is 35 years old !

 

[Evilrude]

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The compression is great in all cylinders like 125 per cylinder. Really it's a starting issue . When it starts it runs good. And will fire right up after the initial start up?

 

[gm280]

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WOW with a engine that old, there are near endless possibilities for it not to run properly. Too many things to verify and replace before placing blame. Tank, fuel lines, fuel pump, water pump, carb(s), spark plugs, ignition coils, points/trigger, and the list can go one... Regardless whether you used Sta-bil or not, I'd replace all the fuel lines for starters. Next would be rebuild the fuel pump diaphragm and move on to the carbs. Do the compression test first before spending more money on anything else. If the compression numbers aren't good, that needs to be fixed first... JMHO!

 

[daselbee]

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Well besides all the hand-wringing and teeth gnashing regarding the dealer, I would like to suggest that since they had the carbs off to work on them, I would think that maybe, just maybe they didn't hook the choke up properly when re-assembling.

Remove the engine cover, have someone operating the keyswitch, turn key to ON, and then press the key in to see if the choke operates.
If the choke solenoid clicks, check for actual operation of the choke plate, make sure it is closing all the way, etc.

There is a manual choke lever too that you can flip to see if it starts right up that way.

Choke mechanism is located on the starboard side, right behind the sir silencer.

 

[Evilrude]

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That's funny cause when I got it back the first time the choke wasn't engaging from the key. I called and he said to loosen the. 7/8' bolts that hold the choke mechanism and try it again . It then starting to work properly , but I definetly didn't look to see if it was actually engaging I could just hear it clicking and assumed it was working I'll check that tonight for sure. Is it possible I'm getting a vacuum going on or a flooding issue?? What causes a vacuum effect? I just got it back yesterday so I have a lot of digging to do. Mind you when it did start I warmed it up and took it to the river and it purred like a kitten all afternoon just wouldn't start cold? Thanks

 

[daselbee]

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You are describing exactly the symptoms of an engine that has no choke. Very hard if not impossible to start when cold, starts up fine for the rest of the day.
You have to check the choke out thoroughly. Electrically and mechanically. After all...that's where they were working.

No, don't complicate it with "vacuum or flooding" stuff. Keep it simple for now.

 

[Evilrude]

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10 4 that's where I'll start thanks. I'll post my findings

 

[bonz_d]

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Wow, some of you are making it sound like this engine is antique and on it's last stroke.

My question is if the engine was brought in for carb work why did they have to pull a spark plug? Must have been in the way, huh?

 

[racerone]

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Age of the motor is a consideration.-----------Condition is important.----------Many a 15 year old motor has been seen on the scrap pile.

 

[daselbee]

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Bonz....I guess they did a compression test. On every engine that I work on, I always do a spark and compression test first thing.

But, yes, it is a good question....

Now back to those pesky bad dealer/mechanics.....Truth here.....there is not ONE qualified Evinrude dealer/mechanic in my neck of the woods. No one that I would take my motor to, anyway. It is really sad. Evinrude was once a very, very strong name...not so much anymore.

There is a dealer in New Smyrna Beach, FL. The mechanics walk around the shop in their blue shorts, and white shirt uniforms....not a bit of oil or grease to be seen. How can someone work on an engine and not get even a bit dirty? These days, all they expect to do is hook up the laptop, and change parts til they "fix" it. Sorry, off the subject.....