guages going haywire

sk0b

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was out on lake and all the sudden fuel, temp, trim, and voltage guages went crazy bouncing up and down. was on way back so figured best thing to do is get out of the water. any suggestions? i have no idea what would cause this.
 

Wind dog

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Re: guages going haywire

Bad ground is the first place I would look.
 

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Re: guages going haywire

Originally Posted by Wind dog
Bad ground is the first place I would look.
checked grounds all are ok

Ayuh,... Not all of 'em.... It's 'bout the only thing they all have in common...

Or they're loosin' Power....
 

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Re: Gauges going haywire

Re: Gauges going haywire

checked grounds all are OK

How did you check the grounds?

Start at the simplest Gauge. Voltmeter.

Place the test meter's Ground lead on the Neg Battery post by the engine. (No Cheating!)
Measure the voltage on the POS and NEG terminal of the Voltage Gauge.

POS < 12? No Power.
NEG > 0? No Ground.


Everyone, Please, it's Gauge, not Guage!
 

Jlawsen

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Re: guages going haywire

Bond-o is corerct, it is usually the negative battery connection. If it is power, it will be the purple wire from the ignition switch. There will be at least two purples at the ignition switch the other one goes to your coil. The purple is key-on 12v +. An open between the ignition switch and the first gauge in the string would cause the problem you're having. Check all the + and - connectors. Wires have been known to break barely back from the connector from vibration. Since all the gauges have the problem, most likely you'll find it at the first gauge in the string after the ignition switch.

If you're gauges are lighted and the gauge lights work then it's not the 12v - (black), it's the 12v + purple wire.

Side note, the gauge lights 12v + is blue.
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: guages going haywire

well if all the guages go crazy but the motor runs OK I wouldn't cut short the trip. You don't need them.

Ground problems are a crazy mystery. Go all the way back to the battery. Just this weekend a friend was having electrical issues (battery would not start motor or let it run although it appeared fully charged). He removed the ground (neg) cable, which was pliers tight and clean. Put it back on and the boat ran fine. Go figure.

Second choice is a low short--not enough to pop a fuse. I had a gas guage (only guage) that would go all squirrelly just before the 20A fuse controlling it popped. Turns out part of the steering wheel mechanism was flexing over and barely touching the power wire to the guage.

get some di-electric grease on your contacts, too.

Often in boats a wire has a rubbed spot somewhere causing these low shorts. A frequent culprit is where a wire lays on top of a structure like the fuel tank under the floor in a tight space. pressure and movement, salt sand and dampness, wear it a little, just enough, and there you go. Also happens where wires cross or where they move (e.g. at the engine). Lots of places that can happen.

To trouble shoot run new temporary wires from source (battery) to device or block, to isolate a short somewhere along the line of the existing wiring.

Good luck. It took me, 2 different shops and 3 different mechanics 18 months to find mine. Meanwhile I went through a bushel of 20A fuses!
 

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Re: guages going haywire

well if all the guages go crazy but the motor runs OK I wouldn't cut short the trip. You don't need them.

Ground problems are a crazy mystery. Go all the way back to the battery. Just this weekend a friend was having electrical issues (battery would not start motor or let it run although it appeared fully charged). He removed the ground (neg) cable, which was pliers tight and clean. Put it back on and the boat ran fine. Go figure.

Second choice is a low short--not enough to pop a fuse. I had a gas guage (only guage) that would go all squirrelly just before the 20A fuse controlling it popped. Turns out part of the steering wheel mechanism was flexing over and barely touching the power wire to the guage.

get some di-electric grease on your contacts, too.

Often in boats a wire has a rubbed spot somewhere causing these low shorts. A frequent culprit is where a wire lays on top of a structure like the fuel tank under the floor in a tight space. pressure and movement, salt sand and dampness, wear it a little, just enough, and there you go. Also happens where wires cross or where they move (e.g. at the engine). Lots of places that can happen.

To trouble shoot run new temporary wires from source (battery) to device or block, to isolate a short somewhere along the line of the existing wiring.

Good luck. It took me, 2 different shops and 3 different mechanics 18 months to find mine. Meanwhile I went through a bushel of 20A fuses!

Gas gauges don't have a 20 amp fuse. The Instruments, including the gas gauge are powered via the accessory terminal (the "A" terminal) on the ignition switch. Power to the ignition switch comes from the engine harness. The engine electrics are protected by a 20A fuse. If the motor started and the trim system worked then that 20A fuse was not the problem.
 
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