Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

glastron86

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I am going to do some needed maintenance on my trailer, paint and new bunks, and probably going to sandblast it to clean it up. The former owner lived on a dirt road and there are a lot of pits and rust forming on the front of every part of the trailer. I have decided to prime it with Rustoleum and then paint it with the same brand. Has anybody done this and have any wisdom for me?
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

If you have it sand blasted, it would be a good idea to replace thw wheel seals after you are done. Some fine particles will get into them during the blasting.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Consider using this product. One step and great reviews. It was recommended to me and I plan to use it on my trailer after I blast it.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Are you going to blast it yourself?
 

glastron86

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Yes, I am going to try and sandblast it myself. I have been reading up on it and talking to as many people as possible regarding this project, which is why I am asking for some info here...I need all the help I can get!
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

my suggestion is to remove the tires and hubs. and tape up the spindles totally. then remove the axle, give you better work room.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Remove anthing that could be affected by the abrasive blasting. Seals, bearings etc. Good luck with it and please post some before, during and after photos.
Personally I did mine with a wire brush, sander and a couple of coats of brushed on rustoleum, except for the fenders which i spray painted with rustoleum out of a spray bomb. Look s great to me and nothing showing through after 1 year so far.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

I do a fair bit of my own blasting. In fact, I just finished blasting and priming my 24' horse trailer. What kind of pot are you going to use? The pressure pots work the best. We don't use anything fancy, just the cheap pressure pot from Northern Tool and it works great. Ours is just like this one. What kind of compressor do you have? Find someone in your area that sells abrasive on a large scale, i.e. for commercial blasting. You should be able to get it for ~$6/50lb. Unless your compressor is larger than 30gal and 15cfm, make sure you get 2 more bags of abrasive than you think you will need. It takes more when you have less pressure available. Forget about coal slag unless you have a commercial blaster. Even though it comes in a fine grade, and is cheaper, it clogs these types of blasters very easily. We use medium grit silica-free abrasive in ours.

We remove the wheels and hubs on trailers (as TD suggested) but not the axles. We tape the spindles with duct tape. Make sure the spindles are 100% free of abrasive before reassembling the hubs/wheels.

I don't know if you have sandblasted before, so if you haven't be aware of the following:
1) Abrasive goes everywhere. There should be nothing within 40' of the trailer that you don't want it on.
2) Wear a good hood, long sleeves/pants, boots, and welding type gloves.
3) When you're ready to run, start the airflow first and then open the valve for the abrasive just enough that it keeps flowing. Shutting it off is the reverse - abrasive valve first, then open air valve all the way briefly to purge the line of abrasive and shut it off.
4) You don't have to blast everything into the white. Clean is good enough.
5) Blast at a 45deg angle away from yourself whenever possible. The more abrasive that hits your eye shield, the faster you won't be able to see through it.
6) Be safe and always keep the nozzle pointed in a safe direction.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Put primer on the bare metal the SAME day you blast it. Sand blasted steel starts to rust within hours. You could sandblast then use POR 15 and it would be done forever.
 

glastron86

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Thanks for all the good advice. Still a couple of questions...will I be able to find the bearings at a good automotive supply store or should I be prepared to have to special order them. Or do I need to replace them, just repack them, and will I need anything else when I pull the hubs? I am renting the blaster from a place here it is a pressurized and they have a diesel powered air compressor that they include with it. They were telling me that I should be able to finish it in 4 hours, and it only rents for $50 for 4 hours. Can anybody tell me about how many 50lb bags of media that I will need?
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

I work at a trailer company (MGS trailers) out of PA. I do assembly, and sometimes we need to install parts ASAP and they may not be painted. We have a cold galvanize in a can called ZINC. We spray that and sometimes not even paint over it depending on what we are painting, and it seems to work very good. Every think of doing a bottom coat with something like that?
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Wow...you're going to be rock and rolling with that rented setup. No way will it take you 4 hours...what a deal! You might be able to run coal slag through one of those - ask them. It's cheaper, here it's ~$7/100lb bag. My guess would be 200-300lbs required, but again it depends on how far you take it down and /or what it looks like. Many times if you rent units, they will take back unopened bags of abrasive. Ask them and if they will, get a bunch to make sure and/or do a few other projects while you have it.

The bearings won't need to be replaced unless they're damaged. It is not uncommon to have to replace the rear seal, though. If you have to replace the bearings, they're probably pretty standard. They'll have numbers laser etched into them.

Have fun, and like Bob_VT mentioned, be prepared to prime it the same day. Within hours of blasting it, it will surface rust...
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

...me that I should be able to finish it in 4 hours, and it only rents for $50 for 4 hours. Can anybody tell me about how many 50lb bags of media that I will need?

You must have held a gun on the guy for that price.:D In my area the cost of renting the pressure pot, compressor, and the blast media will run more than the $250 that a blast shop will charge.

If you can get your hands on Rusticide (commercial paint/rust stripping operations should be able to set you up with it), apply it to the newly blasted surfaces paying particular attention to the welds, creases, and joints. Those areas are not cleaned as well as the open flat surfaces. The gaps holds some of the blast media as well. Rusticide will neutralize oxidation there and prevent it from returning if you don't get to primer and paint immediately.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

I have seen the blasting unit and it looks like it should work great, but we all know how looks can be deceiving! I will ask about the coal slag and I have asked some of my buddies to see if they have anything they would like done, I have thought about having my tires dismounted and blasting the wheels, because they are the original and are definitely showing the wear. I will take pictures and see if I can post it for all to use, if needed. Would I need to wash the trailer after blasting it? Or possibly just wipe it down with a dry rag?
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Make sure the rig has a good water separating filter on it. Depending on the air temp and humidity, they can tend to clog up with moisture pretty quick. Especially true when you use the rig non-stop for hours.

I always use a tarp. You'll be going through a lot of media and it's much easier to deal with it if you have a tarp down. That allowed me to recover and recycle the media through a fine mesh screen so I didn't need as much. But I own the machine so I'm not paying by the hour either. It doesn't take long to recover it but IMO you'll be busting hump to get it done in 4 hours. Remember, the clock starts when you pick it up and stops when you drop it off. Transit time included.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

I always use a tarp. You'll be going through a lot of media and it's much easier to deal with it if you have a tarp down. That allowed me to recover and recycle the media through a fine mesh screen so I didn't need as much.


I find that the recycled media is less effective because all the sharp edges are gone. The effort to reclaim, clean, and lesser abrasive quality is not worth it unless you run short and the stores are closed.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

Well, most of the commercial operations re-use the media. Most cabinet setups have a hopper that screens and reuses the media as it is used.

I like a tarp if for nothing else but cleanup. To re-use, you simply pull the tarp so the media is conectrated in one area and then shovel it into a screened funnel back into your bucket.

To each his own.
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

The place i worked at used Black Beauty which is silcia free product


I would NOT do anything at home that would not fit in my blasting cabinet you going to turn the place into a hazmat zone :eek: (just look at any bridge project now)


It is just a huge mess when you blast something that big and do not have containment setup to deal with the mess



Tommays
 

glastron86

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

I'm lucky enough to have a wide open area, completely away from my home that I will not have to worry about the mess at home. But I am going to do my best to keep it as clean as possible. Can anybody tell me if I would need to do anything but wipe down the trailer before I paint it? I have heard different ideas on that one also. I was told to wash it, but make absolutely sure that I get it dry, quickly. Then I was also told to just wipe it down. The trailer does have leaf springs, is that anything to worry about? Thanks again for all the input, this has been fantastic!
 

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Re: Going to sandblast trailer, any wisdom?

After blasting i would just blow it down clean and prime it ASAP as i will rust after even one night outside

You can not really get any cleaner ;) than fresh blasting



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