Going to look at a Chieftain

ezmobee

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Great info from jas above. Here's my opinion on I/O's with as little bias as I can manage.

I/O's require more maintenance than outboards. They have bellows and seals that need to be periodically replaced, outdrives that need to be pulled and serviced periodically and you have to winterize them or you end up with a cracked block. However, I'll be honest....if you keep up with these things it's really not a big deal. Also the motors themselves are simpler and easier to work on. The drives, not so much. One big issue is that if you get an older one that hasn't been maintained in a while, catching up with all the deferred maintenance all at once will cost you a good bit.

Outboards are lighter and don't require much maintenance at all. I pretty much change the lower unit oil in mine every fall and change the impeller every couple years. That's it. However they are more complicated. The larger ones usually have multiple carbs and more complicated ignition systems. Troubleshooting a running issue can be more difficult.

One advantage to an outboard in most boats is more usable room in the cockpit. However Starcrafts have such ridiculously large splashwells it kinda evens it out. Heck the I/O's may even have more room.

Stick with Mercruiser or Volvo for I/O's with the exception of the Merc 470 and anything but Chrysler/Force for outboards.
 

jasoutside

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Oh man ez, I thought for sure I'd hear something like this out of ya...

"IO's are built in the hot underworld and that is where they should remain"

or something like that. You getting soft on us?

Yah, I think ez did a real nice job of a quick summary of what you'd be looking at in the OB v. IO debate.

Cheers!
 

ezmobee

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Oh don't get me wrong....if you gave me one, I'd still sell it immediately :p
 

jasoutside

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Yeah since $5000 isn't an option, I guess I'm gonna need to do some fixing....

this one doesn't look too bad, but this statement scares me:
"Runs great, reverse is slipping, don't think anything major."

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/boa/1701748831.html

See, now that right there might be a great option. Asking $900, takes $700 sort of deal.

However, there is no mention or photo of what drive line is in that rig. Um, OMC Stringer????

Edit - straight 6 mentioned
 

jasoutside

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Oh, about a years salary for me which makes it essentially never ever within reach for the rest of my life. Ever.
 

SnowHunter

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Exactly my point, eh!

Now compare that to this...

http://nmi.craigslist.org/boa/1686872705.html

I talked with the fella, he'd go $400 (maybe less) on it.

Pick your poison!

:eek: I am SO not liking yall up yonder right now :mad::p

Dangit...got some serious boat envy goin on :redface:

If I pass the PT test for this new job... I'm gettin a SC before the end of the year... even Hubby said it was ok!!
 

Rickairmedic

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Hey Papa how far are ya willin to drive again :D . There is an 18' at least ( guy doesnt know ) :confused: Super Sport here that is killin me everytime I look at the add but wiyth everything else goin on right now its just not in the cards . I could go check it out for you and report back with actual size and other info if needed ( SWMBO wont kill me for lookin for someone else ) ;). The seller did know it was a 1979 and there is seating in front of the windshield :D.


http://louisville.craigslist.org/boa/1713743793.html



Rick
 

paparoof

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

I REALLY appreciate the offer, but I'm a month away from the $ still.

Now if you're just looking for an excuse to go look at it, be my guest!
 

elkhunter338

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

I think an islander would fit your requirement perfectly. They have a smaller cabin. I like my larger cabin in the chieftain because the wife and I sleep in it on our outings the past 5 years. The sacrifice is a smaller fishing area with is limited to 4 people. We fish 4 people fine, but I do not have seats in the back corners of the boat, and I have seats that fold out of the way right behind the driver and passenger seats. When buying used there are trade offs. If would love a 24-25' cheiftain.
If money was no option a custom welded boat very similar to a cheiftain with twin Evinrude e-tecs, only a dream. All of us fisher are just happy we can go fishing with what we have, but are always admiring other boats.
Good luck in your quest.
 

CheapboatKev

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Do we know anyone in Sarasota who wants to go look at this for me?

http://sarasota.craigslist.org/boa/1718386527.html

It would cost me more in gas to drive down there and back.....

Wow..that boat was listed last summer..I called the guy and chatted for awhile about it..I cant remember exactly, but there was something else wrong with the motor, unless its part of the 800.00 receipts he is mentioning..

300 bux is crazy CHEAP...I think he was asking 1,500 before..not sure.
Sarasota is maybe an hour and change from me..But I cant get up there this weekend and travel for work the next week. I MAY be able to plan a sales call into that area, but would have to be by May4th..
 

paparoof

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Re: Going to look at a Chieftain

Yeah nevermind, I just calculated 600 bucks in gas to drive down and back, and that's NOT counting the reduced mileage on the drive back. So I'd rather find that same boat for 900 bucks here in town. At least I would save four days of driving.

I still have to go have a chat with the wife about what she wants out of a boat and start factoring that into my plans and decisions.

Nevermind trying to figure out where I'll store a boat....
 
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