Gimbal housing removal

[deddinger]

I am going to change my bellows and my gimbal bearing on a 1975 Cobalt 302 Ford with a 888 stern drive. I have a couple of manuals but am not able to find the information I want in them. Need to remove the gimbal bearing houseing. Does any one know of a good illustration that shows the removal? :blue::blue::blue::blue::blue:

 

[achris]

Re: Gimbal housing removal

Hello Deddinger, and welcome aboard.

The replace the gimbal bearing and the bellows, you do not have to remove the gimbal housing from the boat...

Which manuals do you have?

Chris..........

 

[Bondo]

Re: Gimbal housing removal

I am going to change my bellows and my gimbal bearing on a 1975 Cobalt 302 Ford with a 888 stern drive. I have a couple of manuals but am not able to find the information I want in them. Need to remove the gimbal bearing houseing. Does any one know of a good illustration that shows the removal? :blue::blue::blue::blue::blue:

Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard,.... Not sure Why ya wanta pull that housin', but 1st ya pull the drive, then the motor, then the 6 or 8 nuts holdin' the inner plate to the outer housin', which will allow it to be pulled from the hull,...

 

[deddinger]

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Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard,.... Not sure Why ya wanta pull that housin', but 1st ya pull the drive, then the motor, then the 6 or 8 nuts holdin' the inner plate to the outer housin', which will allow it to be pulled from the hull,...

Did not want to remove the whole thing just the gimbal bell housing. Have it loose now by trial and error. It is the pre alpha older model and is a tad different than what most manuals show. I wanted to get it loose do replace the bellows along with the gimbal bearing. Makes it easier to replace them with it loose.

 

[achris]

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Did not want to remove the whole thing just the gimbal bell housing. Have it loose now by trial and error. It is the pre alpha older model and is a ted different than what most manuals show. I wanted to get it loose do replace the bellows along with the gimbal bearing. Makes it easier to replace them with it loose.

Which manual are you using?

Chris.......
(And it's an MC-1... No such thing as a pre-alpha.)

 

[deddinger]

Re: Gimbal housing removal

Which manual are you using?

Chris.......
(And it's an MC-1... No such thing as a pre-alpha.)

IAW with the Mercury sight there is such a thing as a pre alpha. It states that they are the one's manufactured before the Alpha term was used. Clymer manual and Seloc. Figured it all out with out the manuals. Every thing fixed now.

 

[ktbarrentine]

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IAW with the Mercury sight there is such a thing as a pre alpha. It states that they are the one's manufactured before the Alpha term was used. Clymer manual and Seloc. Figured it all out with out the manuals. Every thing fixed now.

Glad you figured it out without "those" manuals..... They would have led you astray anyways... 'bout all they are good for are knee-pads when working on the shop floor! Get a copy of the "right" OEM manual from this forum. You'll be glad you did.

What is the Mercury "sight" (site?) you are referring to? (provide the URL hyperlink address, please.)

Again... Glad you got 'er fixed! Happy Boating!

 

[achris]

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IAW with the Mercury sight there is such a thing as a pre alpha. It states that they are the one's manufactured before the Alpha term was used. Clymer manual and Seloc. Figured it all out with out the manuals. Every thing fixed now.

No, there is not. I have all the Mercruiser GENUINE service-manuals (both pdf and hard copy), and not once does that term appear in ANY of them. It is also not on any of Mercury Marines' websites. Many websites do use the term, but they are not Mercury Marine, and they are wrong.

clymer and seloc may also use the term, and again, they are a) not Mercury Marine, and b) wrong!

As a previously Mercruiser Certified Tech (re-certification is required every 5 years, I haven't renewed mine as I am no longer in the industry) and I personally have never heard the term used in the Merc factory or any proper dealership, and it does not appear on any of their documentation....

Chris........

Please read this thread -> http://forums.iboats.com/mercruiser...ve-needs-help-go-down-597987.html#post4160821

 

[deddinger]

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Don't know exactly where I saw the term. I do know that it showed up in several spots on you tube and other spots on the web. I believe now it was just a term used to identify some of the older stern drives. I also know the only way I found any information on the older one's was to use the term. Also the manuals such as Clymer and Seloc do give you some information but they aren't like having the OEM orginal manual. Also I have to use whatever manual I have availble at the time.

 

[achris]

Re: Gimbal housing removal

Don't know exactly where I saw the term. I do know that it showed up in several spots on you tube and other spots on the web. I believe now it was just a term used to identify some of the older stern drives. I also know the only way I found any information on the older one's was to use the term. Also the manuals such as Clymer and Seloc do give you some information but they aren't like having the OEM orginal manual. Also I have to use whatever manual I have availble at the time.

That's the problem, it identifies a group of totally different drives... Why not call it what it is?... You have an MC-1 drive... Identifies it exactly and unambiguously...

I have a proper manual. I'll post a link for you when I get off this phone and onto my computer...

Chris.....

EDIT: Here's a real manual for you... https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1TAvwZ3TjhfOTI5OTMyZTMtNDNkZi00MDAyLWE5MTYtMTI5N2MyNDM3NjZm Download and save...

 

[deddinger]

Re: Gimbal housing removal

Thanks Chris. Do you know where I can buy the manual? I would like to have the book version. Also I have another question about a 9.9 HP big foot out board. For some reason the S/N plate is missing on the one I have. Is there any way to find out the information on it such as the year etc.. There is a plate on it that gives the emission information . It states that it is a 323CC and a family number of 4M9XM.3232G0 also states that it conforms to 2004 Cal and US EPA emission.

 

[chris650]

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I think what you are referring to as the "gimble housing", is actrually called the "bell housing"!

 

[84EdH]

Re: Gimbal housing removal

deddinger, start a thread in the outboard forum to get help with your outboard id. etc. it keeps things less confusing.

another word on the pre-alpha talk. Each of mercruisers drives before the alpha drive had a specific name. MC-1, R, MR, 888, 898, TR TRS etc. you could refer to that whole group as "pre-alpha" but not in a repair help forum where specific drives, parts, characteristics etc is needed. Not all "pre-alpha" parts fit all of the drives made before alpha. lots do some don't.....that's why we are dedicated to kill the term "pre-alpha" .

also, chris650 is correct, about the bell housing name, instead of gimbal housing. In the adults only section towards the bottom of the main page you will see pictures and names of outdrive parts so you know what to call what, and get the best help.

the OEM manual link Chris gave you can be downloaded and printed if you like. I tend to have a copy on my computer, then print a page or two of instructions if I am going to work on a specific thing, say shift cable adjustment. the other manuals have been judged to be sometimes vague, sometimes misleading and sometimes actually wrong about info. they supply. (by people smarter than me, and way more experienced. also, there are service bulletins (changes) to torque settings, repair info. etc. that merc supplies and is included in the adults only section. these changes don't make it to printed books. hope this helps!

 

[achris]

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Thanks Chris. Do you know where I can buy the manual? I would like to have the book version.

It's still available new from Mercury and is about $81... But there's a ton of them on fleabay... Some are over-priced, but some are good value.

Mercury Mercruiser Stern Drive Units Marine Engines Service Manual 2 Vol Set | eBay (Over-priced, same as new for second-hand.. :noidea

Mercruiser Service Manual 2 Stern Drive Marine 1986 | eBay (It says '1986', but that's the year of print, not the year of the units it covers :facepalm

This was a search just using the part number... http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...313.TR0.TRC0.X90-71707&_nkw=90-71707&_sacat=0

The part number for the manual if you want to chase up a new copy is 90-71707. Good luck.

Also I have another question about a 9.9 HP big foot out board. For some reason the S/N plate is missing on the one I have. Is there any way to find out the information on it such as the year etc.. There is a plate on it that gives the emission information . It states that it is a 323CC and a family number of 4M9XM.3232G0 also states that it conforms to 2004 Cal and US EPA emission.

As already stated, start a new thread in the outboard section.