force trim seized?

afosmith

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Unforutnately my 1989 Force 115 has sat for the past year. At some point the engine dropped. I have a new battery so power is not the issue. Engine will turn but engine will not trim. Since I need to move the boat asap I need a quick fix to bring the engine up to transport the boat on a trailer over the road. Any suggestions?
 

bgbass.1

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Re: force trim seized?

alot of the trim units have a relief valve on them there should be a screw so you can release pressure and loft manually
 

roadrunnr

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Re: force trim seized?

Are you sure it's a Force? I don't believe they ever made a 115! Anyway, if it is a Force, there are 2 relays on the front opposite the control cables that control the tilt and trim. You may have a bad relay, they are interchangable, one controls tilt and trim up the other tilt and trim down. you can try swapping the connectors on these relays to see if you can get your outboard tilted up. I believe these relays can be replaced with an automotive relay available at NAPA or another auto parts store. Someone else should be able to chime in here with more detail info on these relays and what else you could try. It is always helpful when you post to include the model and serial number of your outboard. if it is a Force that should be located on the starboard transom mounting bracket.

Good luck and happy fixing!!!
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: force trim seized?

If worse comes to worse, remove the valve on the front of the pump--yeah, oil will drain out but you will be able to lift the engine by hand.

And I have in my garage a block that was described to me as a 115 Force when I bought it. I never checked the number with Merc data base so I don't know for sure, but it is 2,80 stroke by 3.375 bore just like most of the old Chrysler 115. But, a Force 115 is not listed anywhere I know of. Doesn't mean they didn't make a few though. Only changes it would have needed would have been port timing--if that. May have just re-badged a 120--after all 5 hp is only 4% of a 120. Easy for the factory to make a couple of hundred to couple of thousand if they wanted to gauge the market to compete with OMC, Merc, and Yammy 115. Course, later on it was Merc. so if they made them at all it would be to say they had a complete line. Factory and marketing does things for reasons we don't know. For example: I just found out that in the early '80s Chrysler made a 4 cylinder 90 hp. At this time it was mandated by the manufacturers association that all outboards would have hp measured at the prop so factory just re-badged a 105 into a 90.

At the top rear of the block on the port side of the #1 cylinder, there usually (not always) is a stamped number. Call Merc and give them this number and they can tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your engine.
 

mrood10

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tilit/ trim problem please help!

tilit/ trim problem please help!

I have a 1989 125 force on my boat motor work great but i just had my tilt pump changed and now when i go to tilt up it goes but it automatially drops down what would that be.
 

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Re: tilit/ trim problem please help!

Re: tilit/ trim problem please help!

I have a 1989 125 force on my boat motor work great but i just had my tilt pump changed and now when i go to tilt up it goes but it automatially drops down what would that be.

if there are no fluid leaks then it is probably pump. could be piston ring but probably pump.
 
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