Force 125 1986, hole in front of lower unit weeping oil

Radiodan

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Does anybody know what LU I actually have? I would like to get a manual for this unit. My manuals are 1984-88 and I have yet to find one that actually shows the two-piece shift rod and bellows that my 125 has.
 

Radiodan

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Are you mentioning you have two LU because you want us to know you have them or you have them for sale? I didn't see a question in your post/reply or an offer to sell.
 
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The Force power

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Are you mentioning you have two LU because you want us to know you have them or you have them for sale? I didn't see a question in your post/reply or an offer to sell.
1st. You can't post any items for sale one this site
2nd. I don't want to sell them!
The reason I brought it up is because I have not come across the version of your LU and I have four of them (I guess all later than your version)
The only one that "appears" to be a two piece (going by a parts manual) is a 105hp 1977 but I'm probably wrong. Nordin & Jerry will be able to answer that.
 
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Radiodan

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1st. You can't post any items for sale one this site
2nd. I don't want to sell them!
The reason I brought it up is because I have not come across the version of your LU and I have four of them (I guess all later than your version)
The only one that "appears" to be a two piece (going by a parts manual) is a 105hp 1977 but I'm probably wrong. Nordin & Jerry will be able to answer that.
OK, I understand, I didn't know about no sales on this site. Hopefully somebody can tell me what LU I have. I am pretty good at research and am happy to dig for info but I have not come across anything I can find that shows this bellows seal to help me ID my LU. I need a few other parts, like my motor has no carb covers, probably not a big deal but I would like to put them on and the threaded plastic "nut" on the advance just under the flywheel is cracked and I would like to replace it.
 

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Nordin

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Okey now I understand why there was threads in the pic at post #17.
I have newer seen this two piece shift rod. Maybe some other has, jerryjerry or pnwboat etc.
My bad LU with the bellow seal has the regular one piece lower shift rod.
This regular shift rod is screwed into the shift arm, but your seams it is solid in the shift arm.
If this is a home made mod as I think it is, someone have used a shift rod lower from a smaller Force/Chrysler engine.
The 35-55Hp from mid 60.s has the shift rod solid in the shift arm.
Maybe someone use that style and made an extension to fit to the upper rod.
I think the plastic part for the spark advance is still available. Franz Marine will have it.
 

The Force power

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Does anybody know what LU I actually have? I would like to get a manual for this unit. My manuals are 1984-88 and I have yet to find one that actually shows the two-piece shift rod and bellows that my 125 has.
Send some pics. of the entire LU and or engine
 

jerryjerry05

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This is from a 1989 125 L Drive
#64 is the connector on the end of the shift shaft.
Pictures???
If you have a 2 piece drive shaft it's from after 89
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Radiodan

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Lots to report from the past few weeks! Still trying to get the shifter out of my lower unit.
JerryJerry05, what you show looks exactly like my 2 piece driveshaft unit. The "hole" in the lower unit housing where the shifter and shift rod are looks like a "tombstone". There is some piece of metal in that hole down deep that is preventing me from getting the shifter out. I bought another lower unit cheap (not the exact same as mine but some parts will be useful, like the shifter and shift rod). The other lower I bought, while not useful as a plug and play lower, teaches me what another unit looks like down that hole. The unit I bought does not have this restrictive metal piece in there!
I need to put some pics here of this "metal" piece near the bottom of that hole that makes it impossible to pull the shifter out. Since I snapped off the shift rod by trying to unscrew it (Franz told me it unscrews!), I am using a magnetic tool to try and get it out. No matter where on the shifter I get the magnet to grab, the hole is just a little bit too small to get the shifter thru! I have removed the prop shaft and yoke, that is not the problem.
So, I have been talking to Franz every few days. Franz had open heart surgery on October 4, 2021. He has been in the hospital since September 29!. He is doing better but recovery is slow. He is hoping to get out this week, we'll see! Anyway, it will be some time before he is fully back at work.

If I can get the old shifter out of my unit, I have a new shifter and shift rod to put in, then I can reassemble and Franz can send me the machined top cover that we originally got started to do before the shift rod broke, My two-piece shift rod did not unscrew! Remember, this was the "bellows" seal.
I will post pictures and see what you guys think. type.
Starting to feel like a soap opera!
 

Radiodan

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Here is that metal inside that makes the hole smaller. I cannot get the shifter out with my magnetic tool.
 

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puffitu

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OK, I understand, I didn't know about no sales on this site. Hopefully somebody can tell me what LU I have. I am pretty good at research and am happy to dig for info but I have not come across anything I can find that shows this bellows seal to help me ID my LU. I need a few other parts, like my motor has no carb covers, probably not a big deal but I would like to put them on and the threaded plastic "nut" on the advance just under the flywheel is cracked and I would like to replace it.
I have the spare plastic throttle control thingy (whole assembly) somewhere-I’ll look into if you’re interested-pm me
 

jerryjerry05

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I believe the 2 piece driveshaft started when they introduced the L-drive(h#$$ drive) in 89?
Then in 90-91 they started using the same gears in all three drives
90-120-150
 
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