First day out of the year.

redneck joe

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No fishing planned, just first trip out of the season wanted to test handling in rough water which as you can see there was plenty of.

Got just under the bridge ahead of the bigger storm that was coming, motor dies, wind blowing directly at the marina about half mile across the lake. Normally that would be a good thing but the waves and speed at which I was moving would not be conducive to meeting the marina?s breakwater docks. Tested starting for about 45 second, no action, formulated plan.

Then it got even more windy, waves got bigger.

Climbed to the bow, threw the anchor which promptly got tangled up under the bow - first time deployed since I?ve put everything back together. Back around, in the cabin, open the door to the locker, untangled and back up top to tie off on center bow cleat (not railing).

That didn?t grab anything.

Grabbed the back-up anchor, put on life jacket (30+ mph winds now) crawled back up to the bow, threw in, tied off. In conjunction with the main anchor, slowed me down but did not hold either. I?m halfway back to the marina breakwater. Called Kevin (friend at the marina has a houseboat and a pontoon). No answer.

Called the marina, their tow boat was up for the winter. He stated he would see how fast he could dewinterize the boat. I suggested he go see if he could find Kevin as I was not holding and would be crashing sooner than he could dewinterize.

Anchor still not holding.

Kevin calls, he?s on his way. Looking at my possible trajectory I?m going to hit in one of three places ? the breakwater docks that has no access other than by boat so I?m going to hit that with no help; would have to jump in and swim around into the marina. Might hit the submerged Indian mound just in front of the breakwater dock ? on a normal day that would stop me as it?s about 1.5-2? deep depending on the lake level but the waves would have pushed me over it, then into the breakwater ? see above. Best hope was right into the main marina entrance which would still put me into a dock but would have been able to have several people fend me off/grab me, fenders, whatever. As Spock would say ?your chances of survival are approximately 36.038746758399393 to one?. I would have survived however the boat wouldn't have and the short time I would have been in the water would not have been fun at 52 degree surface temp.

Kevin appears from around the back side of the marina, taking water over the deck, occasionally over the railing on his 28? pontoon. We start yelling various scenarios to hook the boats together. The plan was tie the rope to a fender, tie to the center bow cleat and he would pick up behind me, cruise up and away we go. I crawl back to the bow to retrieve the secondary anchor to either use that line or at least get it out of the way. I hook it to the horns and went back to get the bumper. As I was starting back, a big wave and off she slid into 25? of water.

The first anchor has suddenly grabbed; I?m approx. 200? from the breakwater/Indian mound aka boat death.

Kevin gets close enough to me to throw me his 25? line, I tie my six 10? dock lines together, attach bumper and climb back to the bow. Tie off and throw the bumper and line to the seas. Now I have a hooked anchor so the question then becomes - can I pull a 5000 lb boat into 2-4? waves and 30+ mph wind? I think not. If he tries to pull me towards the anchor we run a good chance of him getting his motor tangled up and in a pontoon as there will just not be enough finesse control to stay comfortably clear of the anchor line. Double oh s*** scenario. Climb back to the cabin and grab my dykes. He makes four passes to the bumper before he is successful. As he tries to straighten out and motor towards me I try to keep the rope out of his motor. Not looking good I yell for him to abandon the pass and pitch the rope back to the water. Two more attempts he gets straight and heads towards me.

?How?s this feel? I think I hear him yell as he passes about 10? off the port. I cut the anchor line, keeping tow rope out of his prop. ?'*'ing GO!?

We went.

Longest 45 minutes I think I?ve experienced. Don?t have the kicker on yet if I did I would have had time, going with the wind, to get to safety. Not going out on a bad day again without a kicker.

If the motor had not died when it did, I was less than a minute from being in a wind protected area where I was going to stop and sit for a few before I headed back in.

By the way, the boat handles rough water very nicely.
 

redneck joe

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Re: First day out of the year.

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Gyrene

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Re: First day out of the year.

Damn.
I certainly hope my first time out is better than that!
What body of water were you out in?
 

Gyrene

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Re: First day out of the year.

You need to buy Kevin a beer - several.....:D
 

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Re: First day out of the year.

It's just short of unbelievable how intense pop-up storms in the SouthEast can be ... and just how wild the rides get out on these impounds. I've run into a couple of "frog chokers" that produced some BIG waves. Storms form and are severe in less than 15 minutes sometimes.

Glad y'all are okay. Hope ya' had some clean underwear with you ;)
 

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Re: First day out of the year.

Kicker on yet ????
Glad you are OK.
 

redneck joe

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Re: First day out of the year.

It's just short of unbelievable how intense pop-up storms in the SouthEast can be ... and just how wild the rides get out on these impounds. I've run into a couple of "frog chokers" that produced some BIG waves. Storms form and are severe in less than 15 minutes sometimes.

Glad y'all are okay. Hope ya' had some clean underwear with you ;)

no kidding. I actually do keep pair(s) - never needed but you never know. I travel alot for work so my briefcase always has two pair (also helps pad the laptop), a complete change of all clothes in the truck but haven't got to this boat yet since we sold the other.


On today's checklist.



I purposely went out in the weather but as you said the next squall that came in (after the videos) made it that much worse.
 

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Re: First day out of the year.

so what caused the motor to die?
 

hungupthespikes

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Re: First day out of the year.

Redneck, you did goooooood. More chain on the rode??????? ;)

You Carver is made for the great lakes, so it will handle a lot more than you saw. 30mph winds on Lake Erie = 4-6 footers and 3 sec. intervals, bad chop, so the anchor needs to be right. Your stomach won't like the ride , but the Carver will keep you safe.

huts
 

redneck joe

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Re: First day out of the year.

Scott - sorry forgot to mention - points. New coil while we were at it.

Huts - that's about what the water was on the way back same interval maybe 3-4' tall and felt solid the whole time - into the chop (in the second vid) only about 2' and 20 mph winds but tabs down and slow was nice. Coming back tabs up and riding high the whole time.



More rode for sure I had about 5' on that's all I normally need there, plus I'll go from 75' or rope to 100'.

I have a new normal.
 

hungupthespikes

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More rode for sure I had about 5' on that's all I normally need there, plus I'll go from 75' or rope to 100'.

I have a new normal.

lol, yep, 3-4 will get your heart pounding. A couple of hundred of 3 strand in a bag for emergency is a good thing around here.
huts
 

greenbush future

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Re: First day out of the year.

Glad you came out of that OK, boat too.
If we don't learn from stuff like this it's useless, what would you do different? and I hope I don't come off as a smart XXX, not my intent at all. Those can be some very scary moments, you wont last but seconds in 50 degree's of water.
 

redneck joe

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Re: First day out of the year.

Glad you came out of that OK, boat too.
If we don't learn from stuff like this it's useless, what would you do different? and I hope I don't come off as a smart XXX, not my intent at all. Those can be some very scary moments, you wont last but seconds in 50 degree's of water.

absolutely - most has already been covered.

More rope
longer rode
(replace back up anchor as well)
underwear supply
most effective way to hook to a tow boat in heavy wind/waves
have kicker installed (and working which is why it is not installed yet)


Looking back biggest change I would make is life jacket on the first trip up, not the second. Of course having on all the time would be best.
 

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Re: First day out of the year.

Mostly "Yankee" (<== in good humor, I'm a transplant) boaters chiming in, so let me back Joe up just a little bit. -

I grew up in Michigan and boated inland and Lake Huron, Lake St. Clair and Lake Erie. I've also been out on the Gulf of Mexico several times and now, of course, boat down here in the SE. I've been caught in storms on the Great Lakes, down here and on the Gulf.

The storms I was in up north NEVER scared me. I may have been concerned, and was certainly working to stay ahead of everything ... but not scared. I did get scared once on the Gulf ... we just mis-judged what we saw and got ourselves in a tight spot.

Down here though, I got pretty scared once: in the span of 15 minutes we went from 80? and glass smooth water, to sustained flat winds of 35MPH+, driving rain and 3' rollers. Most of our shorelines are rock, and depending on where you are the bottom shallows up REAL fast. Storms are fast movers and hit REALLY hard. Usually they're over as fast as they start - as opposed to a true squall where a front essentially moves through.

Every now and again, you're gonna' get caught with your shorts down in the SouthEast.
 

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Re: First day out of the year.

I would eliminate the points.

everyone else covered the rode. 3-4' waves will get your heart pumping. hitting the 7-10' swells in deaths door due to a wind change will get it to stop.

Glad you made it back
 

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Re: First day out of the year.

absolutely - most has already been covered.

More rope
longer rode
(replace back up anchor as well)
underwear supply
most effective way to hook to a tow boat in heavy wind/waves
have kicker installed (and working which is why it is not installed yet)


Looking back biggest change I would make is life jacket on the first trip up, not the second. Of course having on all the time would be best.

We encounter these kinds of situations, or should I say we put ourselves in situations that parallel what you experienced up here in Michigan. Heading 8-10 miles out into one of the great lakes losing sight of land. Then having adverse weather kick up means it's a mad dash back to port, kinda like a mini ocean I guess, except the water can be in the 50's or even less in many situations. Having the kicker or twins is almost always how we travel when doing what I described now. With smart phones it's much easier to watch weather form, but nothing beats radar and a good ship to shore radio. Almost all of us crazy fishermen use these tools to make sure we get back safe. I have a few hair raising stories, transoms failing, trying hard to get back to port before the outboard and transom falls off. I have more but each encounter trained me to avoid those situations anymore. I think I've used 8 of my 9 lives in cat terms when it comes to water and boats. Glad you learned and then shared from this encounter.
 
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