Evinrude E10FREDR... no spark...coil conversion??

pattheboatguy

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came out to the "Freaky Fred" engine as i call it now.... it had no spark.... tested the SINGLE orange trigger wire going to the coil and it had voltage on it when i pulled the rope. i know i need better number but im getting to all that...

so this obsolete coil 058441 in obsolete... like can get one in the country for 25 million dollars... they have a see page for details for the "KIT" ? but it doesnt make electrical sense without upgrading the ignition module power pack too. pic shows they just too the two leads and butt connected them together and hooked it into one wire????? wtf... someone explain???

http://www.marineengine.com/newparts/part_details.php?pnum=OMC0584451-KIT

so im looking for someone who has done this. and also if someone has a link to a manual so i can get some voltage numbers that would be great too... asking for alot... appreciate it iboats community...
 

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I'm going to risk an educated guess here. My guess is the original either had one primary winding, OR it had two primary windings joined internally to a single orange wire. Either are electrically possible. My further guess is the KIT has two primary windings, joined externally at the butt connector. All will give same results
 

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F_R I like that answer... so the original one had one single orange wire that was joined internally. The new one has two windings but not joined internally so that makes sense to externally join them at the orange wire. GETS THE SAME RESULT... but my question is is how does this one wire now turned into two know which cylinder to fire at which time? im confused as to why when hooked up like this it doesnt fire both plugs at the same time? you know. I think way too much but would like to learn the electric science behind it. if you could explain id appreciate it

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original is number 3 coil pack with one "exciter wire" from ignition module power pack... the orange wire... now ive spliced and made to 2 exciter wires from that one... but how does it know now not to fire both spark plugs at the same time? maybe im caught up on this and not thinking electrically correct
 

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??----Both coils fire at the same time on those 4 strokes.----One spark does nothing as it fires one cylinder on the exhaust stroke.-----Do not overthink this concept.
 

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OHHHHHHHHHHH racerone i have seen your post all around this website and you the man. i get it now..... thanks... oh and everybody should know.... screw this engine...
 

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hey since i got you here... what should that voltage be on that orange wire? you got a quick shortcut to the manual with voltage values... i thought i saw one before and it said .5vt + on that orange exciter wire but can find the pdf or website thread anymore?? little more help?? i send beers via venmo or paypal hahahahaha
 
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