evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

[clete meaders]

just got a 1971 9122r - my questions will be from uninformed/inexperienced boater. my first question - to put in lower unit 90wt. foot oil - do I insert the 90 wt. squeeze tube of oil into the lower hole(silver scew plug) and insert oil until it flows out of the tophole (w/silver screw cap )?

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

Large slotted screw in skeg is the drain/fill hole. Identical screw further up the lower unit if the oil level hole.

Yes, fill from the bottom drain/fill hole until the lube flows out the top oil level hole.

DO NOT ever remove the philips screw. This is a long internal shoulder bolt which is actually a pivot rod for the internal shift linkage.

 

[dazk14]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

Edit: Joe types faster...forgive the re-run.

Yes, Use marine lower unit oil, not automotive. Both screws are slotted - do not touch the Philips screw or you won't be able to shift. Fill with motor upright and when dribbles out top hole, replace top screw. This creates a vacuum so you don't lose a lot when installing the lower screw.

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

Edit: Joe types faster...forgive the re-run.

Yes, Use marine lower unit oil, not automotive. Both screws are slotted - do not touch the Philips screw or you won't be able to shift. Fill with motor upright and when dribbles out top hole, replace top screw. This creates a vacuum so you don't lose a lot when installing the lower screw.

thank you - great information, especially since I have already bought automotive 90 wt. oil - will take back and exchange for marine 90 wt.
clete

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

thank you - great information, especially since I have already bought automotive 90 wt. oil - will take back and exchange for marine 90 wt.
clete

a pasture down the road was going to be developed for subdiivison as progress makes it this way. live in rural jackson county ga. there was an old sea king 13-6" v-hull jon boat in pasture that had been used for water trough for cattle. boat was full of water so know dosent link. the knew developer (development since stopped from recession) planned on bulldozering down fencing, boat, prep for develpment. I asked for the boat and the new owner said take it. friend gave me 9.5 evinrude cause too big for his duck boat. the 1971 motor been setting-up for many years under house, this has been quite a project - learning as i go. basically loosing, regreased, added plugs, wires, bought plastic walmart tank, lines, pumps, connectors, etc. have gone thru the process of getting it registered thru ga. dnr, working on on old EE-ZZ Load trailer left in barn Dad' used with his original thomson bros. cypress strip boat. have taken trailer down to bare metal - going back with primer, new lights/wiring, wheel bearings, wheels/tires/ etc. so getting close.

main concern - get motor running. replaced points, wires, plugs (plugs set at .030). can get the motor running with help of starter fluid - but engine will not stay running, new points - .020 gap, getting fire to plugs and continous fuel flow to the carb, (rubber 5/16" tank line is 11 foot long cause wanted it in front of boat w/hand-pump 2' from engine - don't know if this is an issue?). took carb apart, cleaned, but feel problem is in carb. engine fires off especially first in morning - then have to wait to next day to get it fired off again. longest its' run so far is 5-6 seconds . am I right in assuming carb is flooding (then leaking back down overnight)? took carb off once & cleaned - but feel may still have gunk in carb jets/openings or assembled back incorrectly. it is old type - 1971. 9122R. with first new plugs - dealer sold be wrong plugs - were approx 1/8" too long and mashed in top-hook on plugs to where there was no gap - now have correct plug - Champion j4c. hope no serious damage done there. never ran with them but about 3-4 seconds.
thanks for yalls help - clete

 

[levi_tsk]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

shouldnt be an issue on the length of the hose but DO NOT use starting fluid you WILL damage the engine internals in short order

did you change the core (welsh) plugs in the carb? if not you need to take em out and resoak it in carb dip thats where your idle , transfer and high speed ports are and if they arent SPOTLESS your just wasting your time theres also a hole(s) on the side of the carb that need to be very clean as they are venturies and mix air with the fuel to help it atomize better for a good burn
as for the plug issue take the plugs out rotate the engine around while shining a flash light in there and inspect the tops of the piston for damage - anything more than a dent is bad news ...

me and that dealer would be having words right now and im pretty sure that the moderator would edit em if i posted em up here

oh and have you done your water pump? if not do it too if theres any grooves on the wearplate OR the housing replace em or it will not pump right but DEFINITLY replace the impeller

j4c's are the correct plug though if you plan on trolling around alot id run j6c's though or youll foul out the plugs regularly but if you plan on running wide open everywhere stick with the j4c's as they are a cooler heat range

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

shouldnt be an issue on the length of the hose but DO NOT use starting fluid you WILL damage the engine internals in short order

did you change the core (welsh) plugs in the carb? if not you need to take em out and resoak it in carb dip thats where your idle , transfer and high speed ports are and if they arent SPOTLESS your just wasting your time theres also a hole(s) on the side of the carb that need to be very clean as they are venturies and mix air with the fuel to help it atomize better for a good burn
as for the plug issue take the plugs out rotate the engine around while shining a flash light in there and inspect the tops of the piston for damage - anything more than a dent is bad news ...

me and that dealer would be having words right now and im pretty sure that the moderator would edit em if i posted em up here

oh and have you done your water pump? if not do it too if theres any grooves on the wearplate OR the housing replace em or it will not pump right but DEFINITLY replace the impeller

j4c's are the correct plug though if you plan on trolling around alot id run j6c's though or youll foul out the plugs regularly but if you plan on running wide open everywhere stick with the j4c's as they are a cooler heat range

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[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

took carb off today = cleaned core plugs - soaked in carb cleaner then blew out w/compressor. fired up 4th pull. certainly appreciate the help. first timeto run in 20 year. bought new wheel bearings for trailer.. saw an item called "buddy bearing" - looked to be a spring-loaded cap - the EEZZ loader trailer has one inch bearings. did not know if the buddy bearing assemblies are usefull item - since cost was 50 bucks elected to keep greased by hand. will drop lower unit of 9122r to get to impellar (looked-up diagram to locate core plugs and will do same to locate water pump - the coolant water coming out back of motor comes in spurts - Im assuming very worth time to replace - is there any apparent advice I can get replacing this impellar - should I drop this lower unit with in neutral, in gear? this being my first attempt at repair/maintenence of outboard and what have accomplished would have been impossible w/0 this forum. did learn trying to put a river boat togehter w/limited funds can 20 & 30 dollar you to death - but due to recession cannot affored the 85/hour shop in town charges. the way the inlet water comes in at foot - is there water earphones that will match this 1971 9.5 evinrude?

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

got engine running. but the big plastic barrel I've got the foot in quickly filled with foot oil. not sure where the oil is coming from. Is there a kit I an buy to replace impellar and all the seals, o-rings, etc. for my foot?

 

[hidef]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

You are most likely seeing unburnt oil and gas in the barrel. Not uncommon when running a two stroke in a barrel. However you should verify that the lower unit is not leaking oil. Pull the lower unit drain plug and make sure there is no water in the lower unit. If there is the seals will need to be replaced.

 

[levi_tsk]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

agreed if the lower unit oil looks milky youve gotta do the seals

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

agreed if the lower unit oil looks milky youve gotta do the seals

the water in the barrel was very milky with lots of oil in it. after removing motor from water barrel the foot is covered with the 90 wt. oil. 2 questions - the slot in the screws is very narrow - Is there a special screwdriver type tool made especially for removing the foot oil screws (both top & bottom)? I would like the replace all seals & impellar before taking to lake - can I purchase a kit that has all the necessary items, if so, can you offer a supplier I can order from?

 

[Rick.]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

The 9.5 will leave more residual oil in a barrel than any of my other motors. It is also the largest user of gas per horse power so the oil is understandable. I really doubt your seeing gear oil. As said above it is simply oil that has gone through your power head. Let your motor sit vertical for a few days, crack the drain screw and if water comes out then your getting water intrusion. Even then the most likely source for intrusion is not the seals but the two nylon washers behind the fill and vent screws. Don't re-use them, replace them. Regardless, the impeller is a good idea. Best of luck. Rick.

 

[levi_tsk]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

the water in the barrel was very milky with lots of oil in it. after removing motor from water barrel the foot is covered with the 90 wt. oil. 2 questions - the slot in the screws is very narrow - Is there a special screwdriver type tool made especially for removing the foot oil screws (both top & bottom)? I would like the replace all seals & impellar before taking to lake - can I purchase a kit that has all the necessary items, if so, can you offer a supplier I can order from?

are you absolutely sure about that clete? what does the oil smell like cause mine makes a BIG mess when it runs in a barrel ... and its only two stroke oil, gas, and water mixed together but it looks like 90w oil smells like gas.... these oldies run dirty

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

are you absolutely sure about that clete? what does the oil smell like cause mine makes a BIG mess when it runs in a barrel ... and its only two stroke oil, gas, and water mixed together but it looks like 90w oil smells like gas.... these oldies run dirty

no - Im not sure. I mounted the motor on boat yesterday (with it mounted vertically) - went out today and noticed oil steady dripping from exhaust port (upright rectangular opening in rear just above the prop)

Would appreciate some help removing the foot. I removed the upright four bolts, pull down on foot, the foot moved one inch. obviously it is attached to the F-N-R lever. so how do I release it from the gear control?

 

[jbjennings]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

I'm pretty sure that on your 9.5 there will be about a 2" oval plate about halfway up the leg that has 2 retaining screws. Take cover off. Inside you will see a brass connector for the shift rod. Take out the bottom bolt and remove the lower unit. When reinstalling the lower unit, make note of the groove in the shift rod. The groove MUST be perfectly centered in the shaft connector bolt hole or you will wipe the threads off the bolt upon tightening it.
Have fun replacing those lower unit seals---no biggie, but not a lot of fun the first time!
Last of all (none of my business, just curious)----how will you get that freebie boat registered????? My state would laugh in my face if I tried to register it.
Good luck,
JBJ

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

I'm pretty sure that on your 9.5 there will be about a 2" oval plate about halfway up the leg that has 2 retaining screws. Take cover off. Inside you will see a brass connector for the shift rod. Take out the bottom bolt and remove the lower unit. When reinstalling the lower unit, make note of the groove in the shift rod. The groove MUST be perfectly centered in the shaft connector bolt hole or you will wipe the threads off the bolt upon tightening it.
Have fun replacing those lower unit seals---no biggie, but not a lot of fun the first time!
Last of all (none of my business, just curious)----how will you get that freebie boat registered????? My state would laugh in my face if I tried to register it.
Good luck,
JBJ

thanks. will remove foot tomm.

Im in ga. I called dnr and they sent an officer to my house to do inspection. did that last week. called today and dnr said it will be 3 more weeks b4 I recieve a HIN # & a vessel affidavid of ownership. been assigned registration # for front of boat. waiting on the 2011 safety registration sticker. actually got motor free (it was too big for a friend's duck boat), paid $50 for boat - Ward's Seahawk. dnr called it a 1970, but has no transom vessel plate.

 

[ultra353]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

The 9.5 doesn`t have a cover for the shift rod connector. Just loosen the bolts and the lower unit should drop about 1/2" ( helps if the gear selector is in reverse) look between the lower unit and the Exh housing and you will see the shift connector, remove the lower bolt completely out as jbj said.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

thanks. will remove foot tomm.

Im in ga. I called dnr and they sent an officer to my house to do inspection. did that last week. called today and dnr said it will be 3 more weeks b4 I recieve a HIN # & a vessel affidavid of ownership. been assigned registration # for front of boat. waiting on the 2011 safety registration sticker. actually got motor free (it was too big for a friend's duck boat), paid $50 for boat - Ward's Seahawk. dnr called it a 1970, but has no transom vessel plate.

Well,
At least I know there's at least one state that doesn't hassle folks. I have a home-made boat and embarrassed to list the steps, costs, and hassle that I will have to get it registered here in LA.
Good luck with your motor! Sounds like you will have a nice rig...

BTW: lower unit parts diagram link: http://www.crowleymarine.com/johnson-evinrude/parts/41428.cfm
Sorry about the wrong info on that shift shaft connector location----it's been a while on the 9.5hp...
JBJ

 

[clete meaders]

Re: evinrude 9.5hp model - 9122R

The 9.5 doesn`t have a cover for the shift rod connector. Just loosen the bolts and the lower unit should drop about 1/2" ( helps if the gear selector is in reverse) look between the lower unit and the Exh housing and you will see the shift connector, remove the lower bolt completely out as jbj said.

removed foot - no problem. impellar "wings" in different directions but seems to be in good shape - got this far and would like to replace it.

decided would do one last thing since have a waiting time of procuring another impellar - I removed fuel pump to check it out. now I got a mess - a bowl of parts and not sure of reaasembly. have surfed net for different fuel pump diagrams but none show the "thin skin-type rubber diafram pump area" plus two small springs (one smaller than other) - I need to locate a more precise 9122r fuel pump diagram.