Ever tried to plant a garden in a Jungle...

bassboy1

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Complete with Tarzan vines?

Holy crap. Those things are downright deadly. Mom has been wanting some raised bed gardens in the backyard. So, dad and I were trying to clean out brush and fallen trees from the woods. Other than that it is a clearing. We also decided that a couple trees need to go to get better light. The trees are encrusted in vines - some of which are SIX inches in diameter. To make matters worse, the tree is leaning toward neighbors property. So we pull out the trusty rope bag and use a winch to yank the tree toward us. Cut it, and the tree is still standing. Tied to other trees with VINES. Reattache winch to bottom of tree and try to pull it out from underneath. Nope. Wont move. Cut the trunk off on 6 foot sections from the bottom up. Attached the rope from the tangled mess of the top of the tree to the truck and pulled. 1 1/4 inch rope snapped after stalling the truck twice. Two and a half hours to get one tree down. Turns out the vines had killed the tree. Had killed other trees as well but they weren't so entangled so they didn't fight. Still have about 3 dead trees we cannot remove w/o a bucket truck, which we don't have sitting in the workshop. The vines run in a grid under the leaves. Each one about a quarter inch in diameter and about six inches apart. Grab onto any foot or wheelbarrow or anything else that goes past it. To green to cut, and to strong to break.
We have a chipper/shredder that we have been running some of the vines and brush through. Have about 12 wheelbarrow loads of mulch and took one fully loaded pickup to the dump, and still can't tell we even started. The VINES have latched onto every thing. And there was a lot of deadfall back there, and the previous owners of the house dumped every bit of yard waste they had back there. And the vines took over all of it. What was supposed to be a half days work building some raised beds have turned into 2 long days of VINES. Haven't even touched the stack of crossties yet.

I HATE VINES!!!!!!!!
 

JRJ

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Re: Ever tried to plant a garden in a Jungle...

Hope they aren't poison oak vines:%
 

bassboy1

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Re: Ever tried to plant a garden in a Jungle...

No they aren't, even though I am immune. But, all the vine dust from the chainsaw and chipper are not helping my already bad allergies.
 

rwise

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Re: Ever tried to plant a garden in a Jungle...

so what are you (your mom) going to plant when you win the war of the vines? if you had time you could just cut the vines at the ground, when the age a bit they will let go. good luck and be safe.
 

bjcsc

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Re: Ever tried to plant a garden in a Jungle...

Been there. I don't know what kinds of vines you have over there, but around here the big ones are Wisteria. Granted, they are beautiful when they bloom in a few weeks, but they are mothers to remove, esp. when they're green. When I cleared for my pastures, I had to pull them out of the trees with my tractor and a wire rope and snatch block anchored low on a tree. No regular rope would stand up. I pulled the vines before felling the trees. They all start at the ground. If I were you, I would take an axe and find where they all enter the ground and cut them now. Then, when you get to them later, they'll be more likely to let go. But I'm with you, no fun and turns 30 minutes of work into a day - and you didn't even mention the numerous cubic yards of vine debris - that's fun, too.
 

bassboy1

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Re: Ever tried to plant a garden in a Jungle...

These are not any kind of decorational vines. We don't know how they got there. They zigzag in and out of the ground so we would have to cut 6 or 8 times on 1 vine. The saw blade on the string trimmer works well for most of them, but we cannot see them under the leaves. It is real tedious to find a bundle, pull them taught and cut them down. Especially since they are grabbing your leg at every chance.

We are trying to plant tomatoes, corn, peppers, possibly beans. Just a scaled down version of the garden we had when we lived out in the country. Had 1/2 acre garden. No joke. Took a hard weekend to plant the stuff. We would get 7 - 10 5 gal. buckets a day. We also made our own pickles and jarred about 150 jars full. Would give these to anybody we knew. We would can beans and have them year round.
 
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