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Rich49

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I guess in reality I am looking for answers that may not be able to be answered. I appreciate all the input. Will post what engine I get.
 

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Four stroke outboards have been around for many decades.
A boat rated for 90 hp is rated for 90 hp.

A boat capacity plate also lists a total weight for gear and people.

Maximum of 4 people.
24 gallon fuel tank.
Total weight capacity of 1080#, including all people, gear, motor, fuel, and beer. :)

So keep your gear and people weight under 700# and you should be under the limit.
 
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QBhoy

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Hi. The 75/90/100/115 new mercs are all that weight (very light for a 115). There are newer versions of your boat with the 115’s fitted these days. Personally if it’s an option…I’d be tempted to just go for the 115 version. The 115 version is an incredible motor and well over the hp suggested on the badge for sure. I’ve got the CT version. Can push my 19ft cuddy to 45 mph gps and just beyond belief for economy and power all through the rpms. Can outperform the 125 optimax on the same boat in every department. Lighter than it too. Some going considering it’s a much larger 2.1l engine.
Last I heard there was a long wait for one though. Here in uk at least.
 

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The new 90 is probably a 4 stroke where your 75 is probably a two stroke, that is the only reason for that much weight difference. Is the excess weight worth 15 hp ??? Wouldnt be in my book. Guess I am still a two stroke fan, lighter, faster, easier to service...your call !!!
I’d normally agree for sure. But comparing the 115 version (same engine but ecu different) to the 2 stroke equivalent, the new 4 stroke is lighter, faster and the rest. There isn’t a 115 2 stroke on the planet that would come close to that new 2.1l 4 stroke 115. It even dusted the 125 optimax in a recent same boat test. On acceleration and top end. Incredible. Lighter too.
 

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4 strokes are so boring and Blaise, not to mention Heavy and sluggish. I can see a demand for secondhand 2 strokes growing, and hopefully a rise in 3rd Party engine parts, to keep them alive
 

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I hope you are right on the sustained demand for used 2 strokes and parts for them.
 

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4 strokes are so boring and Blaise, not to mention Heavy and sluggish. I can see a demand for secondhand 2 strokes growing, and hopefully a rise in 3rd Party engine parts, to keep them alive
Most of them are jimmbo. Agree…and totally agreed with you belt and buckle…before by chance, I ended up owning one. But I’m almost embarrassed to confess…that certainly the one I have…is an exceptional thing. Was so surprised at what it manages. Will cast iron bet my life on it, that there isn’t a 2 stroke 115 that could come close to it for performance. As for the rest of the makers effort on 4 strokes though…your statement stands and fully agree.
It should be known that I keep myself right and offset the 4 stroke with far too many old 2 strokes in the garage and a big proper v6 one on an old cvx16…just in case folk think I’ve went soft ! 😂
Also agree that old 2 strokes are in demand in some cases. Certainly the old smaller machines I have from Yamaha seem to have rocketed in value for sure.
 
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I’d normally agree for sure. But comparing the 115 version (same engine but ecu different) to the 2 stroke equivalent, the new 4 stroke is lighter, faster and the rest. There isn’t a 115 2 stroke on the planet that would come close to that new 2.1l 4 stroke 115. It even dusted the 125 optimax in a recent same boat test. On acceleration and top end. Incredible. Lighter too.
If they are truely faster and lighter, then how long are they going to last ???? I remember when aluminum engines came onto the market, all the big talk about how wonderfull they were going to be, then what a flop they became. When someone comes out with a new 4 stroke that is faster than a comparable 2 stroke....I wouldnt want to be the first to own one !!! Especially when they are lighter, what corners have been cut or what poor quality materials have been substituted. Only time will tell.....
 

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Everybody loves the 4 strokes.-----We need to see if they still run well after 20 years and if they can be rebuilt.-----Parts availability will be an issue as well.
 

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It doesn’t have a capacity plate. Bought the boat last year. Didn’t notice it didn’t have that plate. Boat is in great shape except for the engine now.
Call Tracker Customer Relations. I have had good responses dealing directly with the manufacturer of my old boats. Good luck!
 

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Everybody loves the 4 strokes.-----We need to see if they still run well after 20 years and if they can be rebuilt.-----Parts availability will be an issue as well.
Myself and a number of boating friends are not impressed with the newer 4 strokes. We have found there performance is less on holeshots, much more weight, down the road more costly to rebuild and more costly new. Things may change in the future, but for now and the near future, I will stay with my 2 stroke along with my boating friends. Now with that said we are refering to under 100 hp motors. If you have a bigger boat where big hp is needed, cant beat the I/O!!
 

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If they are truely faster and lighter, then how long are they going to last ???? I remember when aluminum engines came onto the market, all the big talk about how wonderfull they were going to be, then what a flop they became. When someone comes out with a new 4 stroke that is faster than a comparable 2 stroke....I wouldnt want to be the first to own one !!! Especially when they are lighter, what corners have been cut or what poor quality materials have been substituted. Only time will tell.....
I get you. Totally wondered the same thing. But all I’d say is that I’ve put close to 1300 hours on mine in the last 3 years. Had 18 when I got the boat. Now has about 1320 last I checked. Been faultless apart from needing the fuel rail filter cleaned every 300 hours. There is an aluminium small car ferry near me that just replaced their twin 115 2.1 litres as a matter of caution. Nothing wrong with them, but apparently both clocked up 4000 hours by the time they were replaced with similar again. Not too bad. Whole new casting process in house from merc these days. So far ahead of the rest as they are just now. Light years even. Fingers crossed mine keeps going as it is. 5 year warranty speaks volumes too I suppose. Honestly can’t fault mine at all. To fire along a deep v 19ft cuddy at genuine gps mid 40’s is incredible I think. Lot to do with having the larger gearcase no doubt. Running the performance props from merc is a great thing.
 

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Call Tracker Customer Relations. I have had good responses dealing directly with the manufacturer of my old boats. Good luck!
I did call Tracker. He said he could only look back to 2001 and said to call a dealer. Called 3 without any luck. I have seen one of the options for the 98 Nitro was a 75hp ELPTO Mercury that weighed 305lbs so that is something.
 

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I get it guys. I’m honestly a huge 2 stroke fan. No doubt about it. But honestly blown away by this 4 stroke I have currently. Takes a lot to say that out loud. Let me tell you. Honest there isn’t or hasn’t ever been a 115 2 stroke that could come close to it. V4 yam might have a good try at it. But even that would fall short for sure. And they ain’t no feather weight either
 

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A 1972 Evinrude 125 HP was listed at 252 LBS in the brochure.
The last year of the Hydro-Electric gear shift. Back in those Days it was always a delight to see what new engines were being introduced and HP upgrades over the Previous Year. The V6s were still about 3 yrs from Production. These days the motors don't even have a Model Year. As for "New and Improved"? Todays Outboards are as exciting as a 3 hp Briggs and Straton lawn mower engine
 
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