Engine is popping, coughing, backfiring when starter cranks engine to start

marts99ss

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This only happens when the engine is cold, like for the first start of the morning or after it has been off for two hours, and only when the starter is cranking the engine. The engine is popping, coughing, backfiring during the starting process and stalls and doesn't want to start. When it starts it runs fine at all the speeds at idols fine also. I can then turn it off and on with no problem. This problem came up right after I had rebuilt the carburetors because the engine was coughing and stalled during idle. Now it's not coughing at idle. I rebuilt carburetors two times because of this idle coughing. The first rebuilt didn't fix the idle cough because I didn't see the pilot jets to clean them. The Yamaha manual failed to point it out during the carburetor overhaul steps. But at this point after the first rebuilt I didn't have the starter backfire or cough problem. The second time I found the pilot jets and cleaned them out and the idle cough was fixed, but now I have this starter cough problem. I have fallowed the Yamaha manual. It says for the 1989 the turns out of the pilot screw for the ProV150 for the Port 1-1/2 +-1/4 and Starboard 1 +-1/4. I'm with in this perimeters.
One more condition that I have noticed is that the primer bulb does not get rock hard before I crank the engine. I have changed the primer bulb because of that reason but it still does not get completely hard. I don't know if they are related. Could it be a weak fuel pumps? What makes the primer bulb to hold the fuel and get hard? The bulb gets somewhat hard but it stays spongy.
 

greg daigle

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Re: Engine is popping, coughing, backfiring when starter cranks engine to start

try changing the sparkplugs.
 

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Re: Engine is popping, coughing, backfiring when starter cranks engine to start

try changing the sparkplugs.

Marts, welcome to the forum.
(Greg, good to see you over here. Glad you got that Tohatsu fixed)
Good idea about changing plugs.
Vacuum makes the primer bulb hard. Check your tank, bulb, fuel lines and connectors for leaks.
When you had the carbs apart did you check the float levels?
Sounds like you could be too lean at start up?
Are you using clean fuel?
What motor are we talking about?
 
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marts99ss

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Re: Engine is popping, coughing, backfiring when starter cranks engine to start

The engine is a 89 Yamaha ProV150
Thanks for the replies.

The spark plugs are good. Clean fuel yes. Hi tworivers, doesn't the needle valve close one side of the fuel flow and the other side the ball valve in the primer bulb. Is that what causes the primer bulb to get hard? My primer bulb gets hard but not real hard, and I can still pump it when it get hard. Is that normal?
The float levels are exactly 16 mm as the book instructed. Could one of them needle valves be stock? Can this be checked without taking it apart?
 

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Re: Engine is popping, coughing, backfiring when starter cranks engine to start

Marts, welcome to the forum.
(Greg, good to see you over here. Glad you got that Tohatsu fixed)
Good idea about changing plugs.
Vacuum makes the primer bulb hard. Check your tank, bulb, fuel lines and connectors for leaks.
When you had the carbs apart did you check the float levels?
Sounds like you could be too lean at start up?
Are you using clean fuel?
What motor are we talking about?

pulling a vacuum of some parts of the human body should make them hard:rolleyes:,
but vacuum on the primer bulb will not make it hard.
When you can not pump any more fuel into the system because everything is filled up and all needles are seated not allowing any more fuel to be moved through the bulb the primer gets hard if there are no leaks any where.
Fuel pumps can leak fuel into the crankcase and air leaks before the bulb will induce air into the fuel system
 
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