elections on the horizon.

rolmops

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On opening the Sunday Times,I read the headline about the senate debating gay marriage.It struck me then.If it depends on the current mayority in the senate,this election is not going to be about the senator's performance or about sending a message to the president.<br />No, the gay subject has been pulled out of the stable in order to pull our attention away from current affairs and the intention is clear.<br />It may be possible to draw a defining line between pro and anti gay marriage senators and build a campaign around that subject.Whether they marry or not only matters to themselves,but we can start the old election adage of good and evil,christian and heathen.It will pull the public away from senator's or president's performance and give the party machine a chance to work the crowds<br />Before too long ,the terror alert color code will be back in the news and it will be high!<br />Whether they will succeed in drawing our attention away like they succeeded the last time,depends on us.<br />Please prepare to vote with your conscience and your head,do not allow yourself to be drawn into not paying attention to performance.
 

PW2

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Re: elections on the horizon.

Yep, They are also dragging out the old tried and true flag burning amendment as well. I guess they are expecting an epidemic of flag burners.<br /><br />Don't we have enough pressing problems in this country to keep them busy with things that actually matter to real people?<br /><br />I can't imagine these tactics will work, but if they do, I think we can officially say that the grand experiment of self governance entered into by our founding fathers is a failure.
 

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Re: elections on the horizon.

I just do not think gay marriage is as important issue to the majority of people, when compared to such issues as the war on islamic terror, illegal immigration, or a fair tax system.<br /><br />ANY canidate that plays the "ride de fence" game with any of the issues above (including bedrooom sexual preferences on-parade), will find themselves riding home after the elections.
 

PW2

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Re: elections on the horizon.

Man, I can't believe I am saying this, but I agree with you, 12 Feetz.<br /><br />Now I am sure my candidates won't be your candidates, but I am willing to let real issues, and not simple political hocus pocus rule the day...
 

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Re: elections on the horizon.

Well, gay marriage is an important issue to me. . .a freedom that is denied many of our citizens by those who don't have a need for it for themselves.<br /><br />But I don't think it should be a campaign issue on the national level. All other laws relating to marriage, legal next of kin status, inheritance, and other laws that are affected by marital status are state laws. Not Fed business.<br /><br />I agree with 12Feetz on what should be national campaign issues.
 

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Re: elections on the horizon.

Four of us from differen't backrounds and we are all thinking the same thing. <br />Now that's Scarey! ;)
 

treedancer

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Re: elections on the horizon.

We have plenty of major issues; them old horses can be left in the stable.
 

KRS

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Re: elections on the horizon.

But that's why it's called Politics.
 

POINTER94

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Re: elections on the horizon.

I almost don't care what anyone says on the trail. If they are incumbant I am going to have a real, real hard time voting for them again. So much is messed up and there seems to be no sense of urgency. Time for new blood, at all levels.<br /><br />The power of incumbancy is going to work against them in my case. I am voting (paying) for results this time not ideology.
 

rodbolt

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Re: elections on the horizon.

I agree<br /> I am watching rehublican ads on the TV today about saving marriage and how this amendment will save the "attack" on marriage and all sorts of other wild allegations.<br /> myself its a no-issue. homosexuals cannot screw up marriage anymore then heterosexuals.<br /> but can someone explain to me how a homosexual marriage is detrimental to heterosexual marriage ?
 

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Re: elections on the horizon.

The key is that it is now or never for the gay bashers. This tends to be a non-issue with most younger voters. Live and let live.<br /><br />Some older voters seem to have a paranoid fear that somehow, if gay unions are sanctioned, there will be a flood of people adopting a gay lifestyle for some reason.<br /><br /><br />They are the same people that adamantly believe that homosexuality is a not an ingrained trait, but a rational choice, and an immoral one at that. <br /><br />There is no rational, defendable reason to attempt to ban gay unions, whatever they are called. There are lots of people that don't want to be exposed to the public display of affection by homosexuals, and frankly I am one of them.<br /><br />But then I am not wildly fond of the blatant public displays by heteros, either.
 

Kwas

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Re: elections on the horizon.

The problem with no federal law is that only a handfull of states recognize gay marriages. A gay marriage in a state that allows it will not be valid in a state that does not. If the people were to move to a state that doesn't recognize the marriage, suddenly they are not married. That is the reason for many federal laws, so there is uniformity.
 

kenimpzoom

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Re: elections on the horizon.

This is the same game they play every year. Both sides are part of the game.<br /><br />They play it to get the sheeple involved.<br /><br />Can I vote for Mickey Mouse??<br /><br />Ken
 

bootle

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Re: elections on the horizon.

Voting anti-incumbent regardless of party would probably be the best thing for America.<br />We would be getting rid of Kennedy, Pelosi, Hassert, Frist, too many to name them all, both houses of congress are over flowing with double dealing con-men and swindlers of the worst kind.<br />They're a blight on the hard working American citizens, no doubt about it, booting those conniving sob's out would be the best breath of fresh air America can give itself.<br />Now, If we can only get the idiot public to get out and vote.<br />I suppose that is asking for too much, probably much easier to raise the dead. :(
 

rolmops

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Re: elections on the horizon.

Voting anti incumbent not only causes the corrupt guys to loose their seats,it also causes other corrupt guys who don't even know what they are doing to take their place.<br />Either way,you loose.
 

bootle

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Re: elections on the horizon.

I don't see how it could be worse than what we presently have, if nothing else it would be a strong sent message to those who intend to make a lifetime career of political prostitution to seek their fortunes elsewhere.
 

rodbolt

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Re: elections on the horizon.

keni, sure I did last year, at least micky has a plan and a clue.<br /> Rolmops, I fear your right. kick one pig away from the through and 3 others fight for the spot.<br /> I dont know if its just me getting older or what but it seems each years crop of politicians gets worse than the last.<br /> Ill vote for the one that promisise to sponser a bill making congress,house and senate a position that can only be held two terms in a lifetime.
 

KRS

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Re: elections on the horizon.

Are we not allowed to have any other issues during a war? Should all other items of interest be suspended?<br /><br />It's a topic like any other topic that fuels political posturing.<br /><br />I'm pretty sure we'll get through it and still remember how to spell Iraq. I'm assuming that each time you mention "drawing away" attention, you are referring to the war?
 
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