Duct tape and plastic

snapperbait

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Now I'm getting ready to paint my boat in the next week or two and I'm going to need a good bit of plastic and probably some duct tape too...<br /><br /> Problem is that the stores are selling out of the stuff because of this mass infectious paranoia.... <br /><br />Whats a fella to do?... :( Guess I'll have to use the newspaper again... Thats all the newspaper's good for anyway, except for the funny pages.. I like them.. :p
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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I like them newspapers also.<br />I use them to start my fire with. :D
 

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The Israelis used plastic sheet and duct tape during their Scud attacks.<br /><br />c/6<br /><br />Hooty
 

roscoe

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Some of the chemical stuff can be stopped with plastic and tape. Because it disipates with time. But the bio stuff can linger for quite some time, and maybe a long long time. Hooty, I'm glad someone remembers what the Israelis have learned the hard way. They actually teach their kids how to seal the house up in school. Tape, plastic, wet towels.<br /><br />Lets hope we never need to do it. VX gas, now that stuff is really scary. One drop on your skin, and you are dead in as little as 10 seconds.
 

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I would say the majority of the houses would still have problems even with duct tape and plastic. With the roof vents, dryer vents, exhaust fan vents. Everyone is bound to forget one or more or not be able to seal it up.<br /><br />The terrorists are definitely getting their way. They are making us afraid and changing our way of life (giving up freedom). It is not very likely that we will have a missile fly into the country somewhere and some gas would be released. The delivery methods for this type of attack or even going to a mall and releasing gas or anthrax is too hard to do. The method that would probably be used would be to infect a suicide attacker with Small pox and send them to the U.S. to go out in public. Shopping touching as many things as they can. No one would know and transmission would be maximum and low tech. The people that do this are low tech for a reason. It is almost impossible to prevent this type of thing. The best way to combat this is to not give in to the fear, for that is their intent. Create one incident, then just keep regularly leaking the word that their is going to be another. What a better way to torture a society?
 

SpinnerBait_Nut

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Yep, thats what it is all about.<br />Trying to disrupt the daily life and routine of the American folks.<br />I don't change mine any. Life is to short anyways.<br />I'm going out and get my boat uncovered and get it ready to go to Rodman.<br />I'm gone. :) <br />Click____________________********
 

plywoody

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Even if you could seal everything properly (completely?) then of course you cut off the supply of replacement oxygen, and will suffocate.<br /><br />Besides, the chances of any terrorist targeting a typical neighborhood as a target is pretty remote. Shopping malls, subway platforms, other public places are likely to be targets, as opposed to a neighborhood. <br />Duct tape and plastic is not likely to help in this event.<br />We are an open society and probably can never eliminate the risk. Concentrating on going after the terrorists where they live (If we knew of an active Alqaida camp in Northern Iraq, why did we not take it out???) Additionally, beefing up border security, including updating computers and data bases, as well as port security, also seems like a prudent move and money well spent. ((Thanks, Mr Daschle!)<br /><br />I do get a kick out of the scuds launched at Mr Daschle and other Democratic leaders, for supposedly not offering alternatives. Let's see, in the two years since Bush has been president,<br /><br /> 1. we have seen unprecedented unrest in all parts of the world, and what little foreign policy initiatives have been tried have failed.<br />2. In a short two years, we have seen the projected budget surplus go from 5.6 trillion dollars go to a projected deficit of over 2 trillion dollars and growing.<br />3. a loss of over 2 million jobs.<br />4. Stock markets approaching 8 year lows.<br /><br />How 'bout as an alternative policy, let's just stop what we are doing! I don't think we can stand much longer these wonderful conservative policies!
 

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Plywoody, the pot has been simmering for a long time. We have allowed the lions to stalk within a few yards, so your points prove only that the prior administrations just swept it all under the carpet. Ok, we've been flushed , our senses are on high, and they are going to rush us as best they can. Better now than later. This prey is going to fight.
 

ob

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And most all of what you mention as being wrong with the country since Bush took over was already in motion from the Clintonites.The world is at disrest since the election results in much the same way as the liberal Foridians were in denial.Too bad ,so sad,don't be mad,get glad.To outright blame the current administration for the overall state of affairs ,globally and domestically,is a testament to partisan finger pointing.These wheels were already in motion.Instead of throwing billions away in a futile attempt to seal every concievable means of entry into this country IMHO it's time to kick-ass and take names.You are correct , this is an open society and needs to remain so.<br />Sure the middle eastern leaders are at disrest with the current administration,whom they know will not tolerate their illogigal way of reasoning.Spare the rod ,spoil the child.
 

beckerdg

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I say screw the plastic and tape for the house. You need to wrap your boat so when you gone it will stay nice and clean for someone to enjoy.<br /><br />As far as the recommendations we are getting from the gov. it never hurts to be prepared. <br /><br />Though this is very much like the duck and cover videos from a long time ago. Yah, I can survive a nuclear blast by getting under the table...
 

ob

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Duck and cover videos?Now there's a young lad. ;)
 

flashback

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The more I read all these posts the more I want to turn the entire middle east into one big sheet of glass! hmm , maybe thats what the govt wants?
 

SCO

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This is like a ban of handguns, in a way that will work, a ban of their manufacture, and I am surprized the left isn't on board when you look at it that way. I think the gov't wants to deprive the terrorists of the capability provided by the likes of the BofB. It's that simple and if we don't we will eventually lose a lot of people. Just ask the former President. We may just have time to put that genie back in the bottle.
 

mattttt25

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gentlemen,<br />keep the plastic and duct tape for your boat, don't go wasting it on a useless protection sceme. as one of the military folks here with some recent atfp training, i can tell you the threat is minimal. if iraq or the terrorists find a way to drop a legitimate nuclear device on our soil, then maybe you should get inside and hide. but the cbr threat just doesn't really exist for most of us. chemical and biological agents need to infect a person to become dangerous, either through inhalation or contact. ususally, the amount must be significant. if osama sprays you in the face or throws powder at you, i'm sorry but you're probably done. but the delivery method is the challenge, and the bad guys don't have too many good options. a dirty bomb, the topic of the day, doesn't present much of a danger to more than the unlucky few within about 100 ft of the detonation. the blast will kill more than any agent it's paired with. crop dusting is another popular media topic, but again, the amount required to be deadly presents the problem. if the plane flies 10 feet over your head with no wind present and dumps, maybe he'll be effective. but the wind will probably disperse the agent enough to make it useless. the only real danger, based on the effectiveness of the delivery, is contamination of a water source. in large quantities, a bad guy could contaminate our drinking water. but trust me, our government knows this and is protecting our water generation/treatment plants. enough of the lecture, just wanted to get some facts out and try to cut down the scare. enjoy life, do what you normally do, and pray for our troops- the real ones in danger.
 

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Duck tape and plastic will work to HELP prevent contamination even if you miss a spot because it cuts the risk no matter how little or much it cuts the risk. That said there are easy ways to infect a population or even poison them that duck tape and plastic can't be called on to reduce risk one bit. If everyone were to step back and take a look at what comes into almost everyone's homes you can see several things that have potential. I do think we do need to take some precautions and be ready to do what we can to keep ourselves and others safe in the event of the worst however I also don't think we need to dwell on it either. I think if whatever could happen were to happen every Americian will know what is going on and how to best keep yourself and others safe in enough time to where the majority will be unaffected. This is what the government is hoping for and it is the best we can expect from them because if you think about it in the case of biological contamination not only does duck tape and plastic help keep it out but I bet it works better at keeping it in.<br />BTW I am not rushing out and buying a bunch of survival gear or anything because of this but am not discounting the possible need for some. I think I am safe because I am not in a major population area but then agian I am not out in the boondocks. The people we are dealing with here want the biggest show they can create and I don't think Moncks Corner, SC or even anywhere in SC makes that good a target except for perhaps Darlington at race time.
 

snapperbait

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Flashback... Thats what I want too.. Turn the entire middle east into a self lighted, glass top parking lot..
 
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