does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

[Terry H]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

[/quote]I know I have posted this before, but for those that didnt see it, I ran the old 100:1 Amsoil fore two years at 80:1 in a 1975 Evenrude 85 HP on a 15' Ranger Bass Boat at WOT everywhere I went at 6,000 RPM without a hitch and never changed the plugs or decarbed once while I had it. The guy I sold it to went back to regular oil, and it was dead in 6 months. [/QB][/quote]<br /><br />So how long would you expect a motor to last after it is abused with the lack of care like you claim? If I skimped on the oil for 2 years like that I,.. well I just don't need to do it...just a thought

 

[ZmOz]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by Chief 101:<br />So how long would you expect a motor to last after it is abused with the lack of care like you claim? If I skimped on the oil for 2 years like that I,.. well I just don't need to do it...just a thought

How many times do we have to go through this? Amsoil is designed for use at 100:1 in ANY motor. Personally, I would never do that; however thousands, maybe millions have, with good results. If it was tearing up engines right and left Amsoil would change their recommended ratio, don't you think? Besides, Amsoil has a warranty. If your engine is damaged because you were using their oil at 100:1, they'll buy you a new one.

 

[Terry H]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

The thing is Z, is that you don't need to go thru this at all. The problem is not with the oil, it is with the machine that is not designed to run that lean on oil...I'm not gonna argue with you on this, If you don't understand this, contact Mercury engineers and ask them. We don't need all this argumentative hype on the subject, we need an expert that can give us some realistic information...and that's all the argument you will get out of me...

 

[ZmOz]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

You really should understand a little something about oil before bad mouthing Amsoil and lubedude for using their recommendations. Mercury designed their engines to run 50:1 on dino oil, nothing more. If you use a MUCH higher quality oil like Amsoil, it only makes sense that you use less of it. What the engine was designed for means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

 

[Terry H]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by ZmOz:<br /> You really should understand a little something about oil before bad mouthing Amsoil and lubedude for using their recommendations. Mercury designed their engines to run 50:1 on dino oil, nothing more. If you use a MUCH higher quality oil like Amsoil, it only makes sense that you use less of it. What the engine was designed for means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

 

[Forktail]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Mercury designed their engines to run 50:1 on dino oil, nothing more.

How do you figure that? Mercury is well aware of synthetic 2-stroke oils. They certainly would've recommended using them at 100:1 if they thought it was best.<br /><br />

If you use a MUCH higher quality oil like Amsoil, it only makes sense that you use less of it.

Well heck, if the oil is so good that you can use half of what you normally do (100:1), then why not use the amount you normally do (50:1) and get twice the protection? See, you might as well say if you use more of it that you'll get better protection. Regardless, you'll have to back up your statement in technical terms, as your reasoning is very ambiguous. You can start by explaining why Amsoil is supposedly such a superior quality oil. <br /><br />

What the engine was designed for means nothing. Absolutely nothing.

That's ridiculous. Why would Amsoil know more about what the engine is designed for than the engineers and manufacturer who designed and tested it?

 

[ZmOz]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

For the love of god....<br /><br />Forktail, this is getting ridiculous. Like I said, if Amsoil was causing engines to seize up don't you think they would stop telling you to use it at 100:1? They have to pay for any engine they destroy. They wouldn't give you a warranty like that if it didn't work. Yes, you could use it at 50:1 and get ALOT better protection. That's what I would do if I ran Amsoil. But there would be no reduction in smoke or carbon buildup. At 100:1, the engine runs almost as clean as a 4 cycle.

 

[butlp]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

I don't understand why the moderators allow this BS about Amsoil (snake oil) to continue on this board. Our hosts provide this forum hoping we will buy products and if you have not noticed iboats sells a full line of 2 stroke oils too.<br />Its time to shutdown all this free advertising and cut the link to peoples web sites that are blatantly trying to sell competing products.

 

[LubeDude]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Well, lets look at it this way. The engine doesnt know it is running at 100:1 (as if it had a soul). The 100:1 Amsoil does not have the solvents in it that regular 50:1 oils have, thats why you have to run the injector oil at 50:1 if you use it as a premix. You could not run the 100:1 in an injector system because it is too thick. Its condenced so to speak, thats why it is in an 8 oz bottle instead of a 16 oz bottle. Its NOT that it is so superior that it can be run at 100:1, its because it is condenced and that is the ratio you mix it to get 50:1 protection. If you mixed the 100:1 at 50:1, it would be like mixing at 25:1, way too much oil and you wouldnt get better protection. Mixing at 80:1 is about like 40:1 like ZMOZ likes to mix. I have attempted to explain this before, but some people are just too hard headed to understand it. How could i explain it any clearer?????

 

[ZmOz]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by Lost Canadian:<br /> I don't understand why the moderators allow this BS about Amsoil (snake oil) to continue on this board. Our hosts provide this forum hoping we will buy products and if you have not noticed iboats sells a full line of 2 stroke oils too.<br />Its time to shutdown all this free advertising and cut the link to peoples web sites that are blatantly trying to sell competing products.

Please, get a clue before bashing any product. First of all, Amsoil is better than any Dino oil. That is a fact. The only arguement is if it's worth the cost and if you should run it at 100:1. It is NOT snake oil. Snake oil is a term used to describe a product that is 100% useless. This is also NOT free advertising. Nobody is advertising Amsoil here. It's no different than when people tell you to use quicksilver oil, are they advertising for mercury?

 

[butlp]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />Nobody is advertising Amsoil here. It's no different than when people tell you to use quicksilver oil, are they advertising for mercury? [/QB]

Big difference because iboat sells Quicksilver

 

[ZmOz]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by Lost Canadian:<br />

Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />Nobody is advertising Amsoil here. It's no different than when people tell you to use quicksilver oil, are they advertising for mercury?

Big difference because iboat sells Quicksilver [/QB]

That is irrelivant. NOBODY IS ADVERTISING HERE! It's not against the rules to recommend a product Iboats doesn't sell...

 

[Dunaruna]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by Lost Canadian:<br /> Its time to shutdown all this free advertising and cut the link to peoples web sites that are blatantly trying to sell competing products.

What free advertising? I've been cruising around these forums for over a year now and have never seen or heard of LubeDude or anyone else advertising amsoil. <br /><br />I use mobil-one in my car - OMG I've advertised mobil-one! <br /><br />See ya. Aldo

 

[butlp]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by ZmOz:<br />Please, get a clue before bashing any product. First of all, Amsoil is better than any Dino oil. That is a fact. The only arguement is if it's worth the cost and if you should run it at 100:1. It is NOT snake oil. Snake oil is a term used to describe a product that is 100% useless.

Do you think anyone with half a brain is going to take yours and Lubedude's word that this product at 100:1 is better than the recommended dino oil from Mercury, Yamaha, Suzuki or any other manufacture <br /><br />I just read Amsoils warranty and there are so many "not covered" clauses that I doubt they would pay JACK SH*T

 

[butlp]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by Dunaruna:<br />

What free advertising? I've been cruising around these forums for over a year now and have never seen or heard of LubeDude or anyone else advertising amsoil. <br /><br />[/QB][/quote]<br /><br />Go to the search button at the top of the page and put in Amsoil. You'll see many examples of good salesmen at work

 

[ZmOz]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Again, until you at least have a little bit of a clue about Amsoil and the rules here, quit posting.

 

[LubeDude]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

OOPs

 

[LubeDude]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

Originally posted by Lost Canadian:<br /> Its time to shutdown all this free advertising and cut the link to peoples web sites that are blatantly trying to sell competing products.

What Link????????????

 

[moderator1]

Re: does anyone run their 2-stroke at 100:1 mix?

OK, everyone has had thier say.<br /><br />Closed.