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boataway

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Bought an old bow rider that came with this Mercury "Saltwater" 150 2-stroke. I can already tell the oil mixing system is gone. My local repair shop says its a bad idea. IDK. Seems like as long as I add oil to the gas, it will NEVER go dry...

Some questions for you pros (I've never owned an outboard, never owned a 2-stroke boat motor, never owned a Mercury):

  • Where do I find the serial/model number?
  • Anyone recognize the unconnected brown wire that I'm pointing to?
  • There is an unpainted metal brace on the aft section, underneath the engine. What is it doing? Worth replacing?
  • There are magnet shavings all over (a few flakes are stuck on the starter). what the?
  • Notice anything else that might be wrong with her? (ouch!)
I'm in the process of replacing the spark plugs, impeller, water pump upper and lower houseing, lower lube, fuel filter, and gas hose ($$$!!!).

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before ya start with buyin' parts.. first thing before ya start ta move tha pistons, squirt a tad bit of pre-mix in tha cylinders and in tha carburetors ta free up tha rings maybe... use a remote start button.. do not use ign key ta turn it over unless ya pull tha kill lanyard..

does it turn over freely?
do a compression test?
tha wire is for a optional temp "GUAGE"
pics show where build date can be found on tha block jus to tha right of where you can see tha "FF" stamped on tha flange, right behind tha timin' arm.. 1/8" numbers, m/d/yr.FF.jpgserial number.jpgserial number may be stamped in tha welsh plug on top of tha block
 
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boataway

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I got the serial number now, and can confirm its a 2003. Thank you!

The engine runs. I had the seller run it for me before buying. The impeller was shot so we did not run it for long (tell tail was not present).
 

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Many engines will ---" run "------That does not mean it is in good condition.-----Do a compression test , post your numbers before spending more $ on this thing.----Wonder why the outside of the sparkplugs are so rusty ?
 

Dukedog

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sorry but that is not an '03.. its pre 2000. tha clamp/trim may be but not powerhead.. check for tha build date i mentioned.
 

boataway

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I am pretty confused. here's the serial number: 0G030490
it seems to lead to a jet drive.

Also, the spark plugs don't have the hook on top. First time I'm seeing this. Apparently called a non resistor spark plug. That right?
 

boataway

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Many engines will ---" run "------That does not mean it is in good condition.-----Do a compression test , post your numbers before spending more $ on this thing.----Wonder why the outside of the sparkplugs are so rusty ?
This has been a saltwater boat most of its life; Wilmington NC area. I actually expected more rust. But yeah.. needs to be replaced.
 

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The brown wire is usually the Over Temp sense since the sensor is buried in the water jacket cover right where you are pointing. It supplies a ground when experiencing temps in the 195F range to the warning horn located in your control box or close to it. Thermostats usually run between 125-143F on opening temp so there is lots of room for engine temp to increase before you hit the alarm.

The unpainted metal plate I see in the picture is a heat sink. You might get some "white thermal grease" just ask the www for it, and rub some between (under) your capacitor discharge modules and the plate....just improves the conduction between the two parts and on a plate looking like that I would do it if mine.

The shavings could just be starter brush residue. Starters run about a hundred bucks, available numerous places if worried about it. If replacing the starter, I'd replace the starting solenoid too as if the starter is worn enough to fail to start, the solenoid copper contacts surely are pitted well beyond reliable.

Impeller is usually all that needs to be replaced in the water pump. Only reason to replace the (pricy...opinion) top and bottom would be scoring in the surfaces touched by the impeller. Also, as part of the lower section are the upper crankshaft seals. If your LU isn't leaking might not have to worry about that.

LU oil replacement is a good idea. Drain plug on the bottom, engine vertical, pull the drain plug. Up on the right (Starboard) side of the engine above the AV plate...fat plate above the prop....will be a screw or two just like the drain plug...remove.

Using Mercury/Quicksilver Premium LU oil in the 1 quart container with hose and adapter plug to fit in the drain hole and pump to pump the oil (in the Sporting Goods section of wallyworld...where you bought your TX-W3 oil for your powerheat lube..used with your fuel in the 2 stroke application) attach the fitting to the drain hole, pump till bubble-less oil comes out the vent hole(s) and they plug the vent(s).

Remove the pump adapter and plug the drain. Some drain plugs have a magnet and it is ok to have a fine metallic film on that plug...that's it's purpose...metallic chips spell trouble. Oil coming out needs to be blue-black to black....any yellowing indicates a leaking LU seal.....there are about 5-6 sources for that.

On replacing fuel lines, super idea along with a new fuel filter and carburetor kits for the carbs and fuel pump kit since the diaphragm gets stiff over time. Going outside the engine, replace the engine to fuel tank hose and squeeze bulb too.....a little pricy these days since the EPA decided how fuel hoses were to be built.

In all what I said you haven't been out any money to speak of and the performance improvement could well make that hundred bucks or so be a pleasant memory.
 
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Dukedog

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don't know where ya gettin' your info but this what ya got''''

1994 Mercury Outboard 135 [XL] [ 1135422PD ]
 

Dukedog

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don't know where ya gettin' your info but this what ya got''''

1994 Mercury Outboard 135 [XL] [ 1135422PD ]

The brown wire is usually the Over Temp sense since the sensor is buried in the water jacket cover right where you are pointing. It supplies a ground when experiencing temps in the 195F range to the warning horn located in your control box or close to it. Thermostats usually run between 125-143F on opening temp so there is lots of room for engine temp to increase before you hit the alarm.
tex is not tha over temp.. its for a temp gauge.. tha over temp (tha one in tha plastic sleeve) terminates on a small term block with a tan that comes from a pin in tha harness. tha tan with tha bullet connector will plug into an exposed tan on tha MALE side of harness plug...
 

boataway

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what should I undo so that the engine doesn't start when doing a compression test on this particular unit?
 

Dukedog

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funny, it says "150" on the cover. ouch.
you will never know tha difference.. use a remote starter button or pull tha kill switch.. should be on tha control box?

send me an email address and i'll send ya an OEM manual in pdf for it.
 

boataway

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compression numbers as requested:
2: 107
4: 107
6: 111
1: 105
3: 110
5: 104

I can't explain in words how relieved I am to see those numbers.
 
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boataway

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I ordered the goofy spark plugs now that I got a manual from Duke's dad. I could not find the female connector to the tan wire...

Big Thanks to Mark for the input. I am replacing the water pump lower because it appears to have overheated and one of the gaskets was stuck to it, and there was a small passageway that seemed warped. The lower unit was ~$30 so cheap peace of mind for something so easy.
 

roscoe

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The goofy sparkplugs are called surface gap plugs.
they've been around for years.
No gap to set, just clean them off and look for the electrode to be worn away.
 
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