DeLay, one down more to follow

[dogsdad]

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Originally posted by rodbolt:<br /> R or D if he is actually convicted of abusing the trust we the taxpaying public placed upon them then it should be a mandatory doubleing of the sentance, however this is the US and I still think if you dont have the evidence to convict the accused walks.<br />as it should be.<br /> I dont know much about Tom Delay, however I sure hope he did not do what he is accused of. however if he did the punishment should be doubled for the breach of trust.<br /> I dont care if your a cop,fireman,meter reader or garbage chunker or federal worker. if you use your position of public trust in and willingly commiting a crime the punishment should be doubled. I dont care if your a rehub,a dumbocrat or a space alien in drag.

Wow. Another instance where I can agree 100% with you rodbolt. But wouldn't a triple penalty be even better?<br /><br />I only wish that politics was not a part of determining who's going to be under scrutiny. Maybe there should be a citizen's panel for ethics<br />that has a very sharp axe. Things would change in a hurry.

 

[dogsdad]

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Originally posted by txswinner:<br /> Haut, do you have an address for Solid, I think I need to send him some of my crazy pills.

First ya better double up on the ginko so you can remember where you stashed 'em...<br /><br />

 

[txswinner]

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dog, ginko is for kids I take the real stuff.

 

[txswinner]

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Kagee,<br /><br />1. We do agree he was behind the district realignment. Opps that is a state's right to draw districts. Kind of out of bounds there.<br /><br />2. You are way off on his newly drawn district, they would elect Ted Kennedy if he had an R by his name. Yeah that far off.<br /><br />3. Districts traditionally are redrawn in Texas every 10 years after the censes, is that a good or bad time, I do not know or care but if redrawn every political power urge it is nonsensical and abuse of Tax Payers money.<br /><br />4. Hopefully, if we ever get any honest good people in our state (Texas) government we can use that money on education. Our education system has been an embrassment for at least the past 15 years or more.

 

[Kwas]

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I think TX is referring to Delay redrawing the dictrict lines in Texas so that more R's would get elected into office.

I don't think that is what he is refering to because that is simply complying with the law and was approved by the court.<br /><br />I don't think that even TXS knows what he was refering to, he was just throwing out more of his left wing radical BS lies. You see, the left wing cannot win an argument on the truth alone.

 

[txswinner]

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Kwas, You are always so open and capable of giving us an unbiased clear understanding of things especially the "simply complying with the law." <br /><br />I had to show my ignorance but would you point me to the law being simply complied with. Many thanks to intellectual sharing.

 

[txswinner]

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Kwas, Sorry to take you away from listening to the Rush but looks like those left wing radical liberals have tortured Scooter into telling on Cheney. Please explain to us how you and Rush can explain this to the masses.

 

[Kwas]

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When you have the integrety to tell us what power Delay stol.e we can discuss something different Either tell us or admit that it was a lie.

 

[txswinner]

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DeLay's theft of power was in gerrymandering at an irregular time (realignment is done by state, yes state rights) for sole purpose of stealing the representation of people for purpose of supporting his cause. HIS CAUSE not necessarily the voice of the people but his self interest and control.<br /><br />Hope this is not too complex for you and Rush. Oh and I did answer your question although probably not as you had wished.

 

[Kwas]

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What he did was not unusual, it is done the very same way in every state in the union, and by the way is not illegal because it is not stealing.

 

[txswinner]

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Never done in Texas until Mr. DeLay's efforts. Federal control of States Rights not taken lightly in this part of the world. He did steal, he will be convicted and hopefully he will go to jail.<br /><br />I said this when the indictment came down (about a year ago or so) and I stand by my belief today he is not an honorable man and has perpetrated evil on the citizenry hidden under the trust of an elected official. In Texas we do not approve of that.<br /><br />Do not Mess with Texas!!! Being a Floridian we do not expect you to understand how we are here. Yes we admit proudly we are different.

 

[dogsdad]

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While I agree with your "don't mess with Texas" sentiments, txs, I disagree with your objections to Delay's participation in the redistricting efforts. He did not hijack the process, or do anything inappropriate. There is no law that prohibits his input. If you object to the fact that the republicans benefited from the redistricting, you'll just have to come to grips with the fact that Texans have rejected the democrats, just as the democrats have been rejected all over the South.<br /><br />Speaking of gerrymandering, I seem to recall seeing a map of the districting of Illinois some years ago. It looked as though Chicago was the hub, and the district lines were drawn so that Chicago could dominate the entire state. I looked it up a while ago, and it doesn't even resemble what I thought I remembered! Has Illinois been redistricted in the last 30 years? Or am I remembering some other kind of map of Illinois?<br /><br />Am I gonna hafta hit up txs for some of those high-powered, grown-ups' memory pills??

 

[rodbolt]

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an odd anomaly in our legal syatem can allow you to be both innocent and guilty.<br /> at the crimminal level the test is beyond a resonable doubt, the civil level has much lower standards.<br /> so its possible, and has been done many times, to be proclaimed innocent in a crimminal court and Guilty in the civil courts for the same issue. however a civil judgement is about as worthess as treebark.<br /> so far I have two in my favor against my Ex, however Ill never see a nickle. it cost me about 3000 dollars to get the intial judgement and the next year to get the secopnd one affirming the first, my attorney told me I can go get a third judgemnt if I desired but he was only sure about 1 of the 3(me,him and the Ex) of us getting any funds. I declined

 

[txswinner]

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The criminal system is based on guilt or innocense for an act against the state. (forget federal, we are our own country down here.) <br /><br />The civil system is based on legal liability based on three separate processes being tort, statuatory, and contract. In civil cases we determine legal liability rather innocense or guilt. And you are correct as to the degrees of certainty addressed in the issues.<br /><br />Rod you are dead right on the civil recovery, a judgement is only worth what you can collect and sometimes it is nothing.

 

[heycods]

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Ahhhhhh super troller is at it early today Nothing happening at the office this morning TX.?

 

[txswinner]

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Nope, not at work, think my son has now officially fired me. Does that make me retired or fired. Think I will go fishing. That is permissible for a hard line right winger like me, isn't it?

 

[dogsdad]

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There are ways of having a judgement executed...

 

[txswinner]

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Keep in mind blood in turnips is hard to find.