Define: No Wake Zone

levittownnick

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Many of the areas where I go boating are “No Wake Zones” and have a 5 mile per hour speed limit. My question is how to define “No Wake”. (Not a sleeping zone for those of us that would ask.)<br /><br />Thanks<br />Nick
 

QC

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

I follow a pretty strict definition of "No Wake", I use . . . well, uh . . . no wake. Sorry, couldn't help it.<br /><br />I am generally serious though. I know that my boat just starts to build what I would call a wake at about 800 RPM, so I keep it under in most circumstances. If I am in a large bay and the wind is blowing, I may push it up a little because the wind is having way more of an affect than my boat is.<br /><br />There are definitely many boaters who apparently don't understand that no wake should mean as close to no wake as possible i.e. slowwwwww. I think we should all be good ambassadors, and we should resist the temptation to push it up just because "everybody else does it". My .02<br /><br />BTW, you are responsible for any damage that your wake does to anybody else's property . . .
 

Ralphy

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

Here in TX it is defined as only enough speed to maintain steering control.
 

jeff_nicholas

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I got pulled over for going 5 1/2 mph in a No Wake zone.<br /><br />The water sheriff said the definition of No Wake was no white water either from the bow or stern. I had him watch me to determine when I was legal. For the circumstances involved at the time, I would have needed to be going 4 mph. <br /><br />I got pinched for going 5 1/2 in a 4!
 

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

i would guess the no wake would take presidence over a 5mph posting. i personaly do no wake. i look back and see what my wake is. there are times when like stated above that you must increase speed for control. winds and currents come to my mind. i think the man takes this into consideration. but if it says no wake and ya make waves, i think perhaps yer in for the blues so to speak.....not to mention that no wake is the considerite thing to do for the other guy. my 2cent. :D
 

Dhadley

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Around here it depends on which water cop you ask and how his day has been. Most tell us that no wake means the slowest you can go and still maintain steering control. That pretty much allows for the wind.
 

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Up Here in New York State,......<br /><br />It's 5mph anytime you're within 500' of Shore.......
 

levittownnick

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

I want to thank all those that replied. I have a good feel for it but was looking for a hard definition. Many times when I'm in these areas I feel that a little increase in speed would not hurt anything but not wanting to be hasseled, I just chug along. There is one area in Oyster Bay Harbor (N.Y. in Nassau County)where they impose this limit on week-ends but not M-F. I have been stopped in this area twice (a year or 2 apart) but was not issued a citation. It felt more like being shown who is in control rather than for any good reason. Well I diverted from the topic as usual, I just want to say thanks.
 

jtexas

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

I'm pretty sure that it's: as slow as you can go and still maintain control of your vessel.
 

Perfidiajoe

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The sign said 5 mph, no wake, not either or. Make no wake, & keep it under 5 mph, while maintaining control. Getting pulled over at 5.5 mph probably means they are looking for something else, a BWI, or someone complained to the brass. Or something other than you is or was going on, & you happened to be there. Safe boating week, or a near by accident, will also have enforcement all over anything moving. Have fun, Be safe, Joe
 

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

I consider it "idling in gear".<br />Our no wake zones are mostly by ramps/docks/obstructions/swimming areas.<br />It really stinks to be loading a boat and get clobbered by a wave.<br />It really stinks to be standing on a dock and get your shoes soaked.<br />It would really stink to get run over while swimming.<br /><br />No wake zones should be navigated at your lowest idle in gear. There are some laws I'll skirmish with every now and then, but, the offset to the no wake zone is a whole lake with no speed limit (well worth the trade).
 

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

My understanding is the posted speed or the minimum speed required to maintain steerage. A strong current or wind can screw up a MPH post. And currents can change by the season and the weather.
 

jastacey

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

In Texas, and I'm assuming in other states, your legally responsible for any damage your wake causes ( boats moored in a slip, and the like ), when your in a no wake zone
 

michael-lagrange

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------------------<br />define “No Wake”. <br />------------------<br /><br />calm water
 

levittownnick

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

At the price of gas, there will be a lot of calm water. <br /><br />Just to try to put it into perspective, the no wake zones are reasonably well defined but my understanding of a wake is a bit fuzzy. If it is dead calm and a pebble is dropped into the water, are the ripples that are formed a wake?<br /><br />I was not talking about cruising along at say 10 m.p.h. or rocking annother boat. I was looking for a technical definition.<br /><br />Thanks for all of your inputs, they Have been helpful.<br />Nick
 

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Re: Define: No Wake Zone

From The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition:<br /><br />wake2 (wāk)<br /> 1. The visible track of turbulence left by something moving through water: the wake of a ship.<br /><br />From Dictionary of Authentic Nautical Terms:<br /><br />No Wake Zone - An area of a waterway in which you are prohibited from waking people who may be sleeping. :D :D :D :D <br /><br />Not much help when the enforcement is so arbitrary :confused: <br /><br />-JMW
 

JustMrWill

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Ok...nice article from Powerboating mag..<br /><br /> http://www.powerboating.com/pbc15-3/lifeline15-3.html <br /><br />You Watch My Wake and I'll Watch My Wash by Mark King<br />From heads to bathrooms, companionways to hallways and salons to living rooms, the sport of boating is slowly losing some of its unique terminology.<br /><br />Perhaps in an effort to attract more people to the recreation, boating stories, especially some new boat reviews, are using terminology that relates to houses.<br /><br />Certain terms, however, will never leave the world of boating and it is important that proficient boaters know them. When the wind is howling and the rain is falling and everything is going wrong, the skipper of the boat needs to be able to speak to his crew in a common language that everyone understands.<br /><br />Hence the need for correct terminology. Bow will always mean the front, and stern, the back. Starboard and port indicate specific sides of the boat no matter which way the boat is going and which way you are facing. Right and left just won't make the grade in an emergency.<br /><br />But the two terms that will likely cause the most confusion in the boating world over the next few years as people become used to re-learning them are "wake" and "wash." These are both simple terms with standard dictionary definitions that have been misused for years - especially "wake."<br /><br />Both terms are on the Canadian Coast Guard list of mandatory definitions that need to be understood by recreational boaters. Of course, when boaters start receiving fines for damage their "wash" creates, the understanding will become much more common.<br /><br />By why wait? Learn them now and save yourself the embarrassment of a fine.<br /><br />For years, agencies and private individuals have been littering our waterways with signs that say, "No Wake" or "No Wake Zone." In many instances these same agencies knew they meant to say "No Wash" or "No Wash Zone," but believed boaters would better understand the word "wake."<br /><br />In fact, it is impossible to move a boat through the water, at any speed, without creating a wake. Wake simply means the disturbed column of water around and behind a craft that is set in motion by the passage of that craft.<br /><br />Next time you are in your boat, take a look behind you. You will see what looks like a track through the water where you have been. That is your wake. So you can watch my wake as I blow past you in a river rocket. I, on the other hand, have a legal responsibility to watch my wash.<br /><br />Wash is defined as the loose or broken water left behind a pleasure craft as it moves along and includes the water thrown aft by the propeller. Most commonly your wash consists of the waves that travel from your boat's track and move away from your boat. Eventually this is the wave action that erodes shorelines, sends other boats rocking and creates that banging noise as docks bounce up and down after a boat passes.<br /><br />This is the stuff that the "No Wake" signs are supposed to address, but don't.<br /><br />With firm definitions in place and Careless Operation defined in the Small Vessel Regulations, you will soon begin hearing about boaters being fined. The charge will be Careless Operation.<br /><br />The regulation reads, "No person shall operate a small vessel in a careless manner without due care or without reasonable consideration for other persons."<br /><br />Among other things, operators can be charged with Careless Operation if their wash adversely affects: other vessels, including anchored vessels, grounded vessels, vessels tied to docks, wrecks, dredges, tows, rowboats or canoes; work being passed; the shoreline; docks or floats; wetlands; other waterway users such as swimmers or users of bathing beaches; where divers are working; or an area of anchorage.<br /><br />The Collision Regulations state that you must be a prudent operator at all times based on the prevailing conditions and local restrictions.<br /><br />You are responsible for any damage or discomfort your boat causes to wildlife, people, objects and the shoreline, and you must take into account all other circumstances as you govern the operation of your vessel.<br /><br />Even on large rivers and lakes, a boat's wash can travel for quite a distance, causing disturbances on the shoreline. Often operators are not aware of the problem. Their wash reaches the shore several minutes after they have passed by.<br /><br />As the operator of the pleasure craft it is your responsibility to know the characteristics of your wash and govern your boat speed accordingly.<br /><br />Ironically, in the argument for control over wash that rages along narrow channels and near shorelines, boaters and non-boaters alike relate the problem strictly to speed.<br /><br />While speed is a factor, today's planing hulls make much more wash when they are travelling at certain slower speeds than they do while they are on plane.<br /><br />So, the only way to regulate the problem is by controlling wash. You watch yours and I'll watch mine - and be aware that both of ours are being watched by others.<br /><br />(Lifeline is produced through the Safe Boater Training Program, a certification program for recreational boaters.) <br /><br />-JMW
 
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