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POINTER94

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Bush hit his stride.<br /><br />Kerry on his game.<br /><br />Tonights debate, DRAW on style, Bush, had the meat again!!!!<br /><br />Kerry 1.5 wins of 3<br /><br />Bush 1.5 wins of 3
 

JB

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"He makes Ted Kennedy the conservative Senator from MA."<br /><br />Best line of all three debates.
 

kenimpzoom

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If I trust Kerry, I would vote for him. He plans on doing everything correctly and not making any mistakes. I am hoping he wins cause we will have a great economy, no more poor people, health care for everyone, and only the rich will pay taxes. Plus the terrorist will become our friends, and the rest of the world will love us.<br /><br />He is amazing. Great answers for everything, too bad they dont have any substance. <br /><br />Bush is a realist and wont lie to America, if America buys what Kerry is selling, it will be a long 4 years.<br /><br />Ken
 

POINTER94

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Interesting, Terry McAlluff the head of the DNC, could not name one bill that Kerry authored and was passed into law in his 20 years in the senate.<br /><br />Whole lot of who will spend more on more. Made me uncomfortable.<br /><br />The pundits who are on the talking head shows are all disgraceful. Lie Lie Lie. They would tell us the sun didn't come out today.
 

PatPatterson

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I think Bush made his best showing in this debate. He was articulate, confident, and didn't stumble on his facts. He had figures and statistics to back him up. He just told it like it is.<br /><br />Kerry has been smooth in all debates, but he has no facts or statistics. He keeps saying he has a plan, but doesn't tell what it is. I want to hear it.<br /><br />What scares me is that people will buy it because he is a smooth and polished speaker. <br /><br />That is scarey.
 

dogsdad

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Originally posted by kenimpzoom:<br /> If I trust Kerry, I would vote for him. He plans on doing everything correctly and not making any mistakes. I am hoping he wins cause we will have a great economy, no more poor people, health care for everyone, and only the rich will pay taxes. Plus the terrorist will become our friends, and the rest of the world will love us.<br /><br />He is amazing. Great answers for everything, too bad they dont have any substance. <br /><br />Bush is a realist and wont lie to America, if America buys what Kerry is selling, it will be a long 4 years.<br /><br />Ken
What Ken said!<br /><br /><br />-dd-
 

cc lancer

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Well, figure this one out. Last week Mr. Bush had a 9 point lead over Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards here in NC. [Fox News] <br />Yet Mr. Edwards is from North Carolina which is a Democratic controlled state, yet other states are showing Bush and Kerry even.
 

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Bush nailed it last night! :D <br /><br />He was great and probably was well rehearsed and it showed. He FINALLY took off the gloves and kicked ol' Ketchuphead's butt on more than a few issues.<br /><br />Butch A.
 

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My favorite quote of the night by Bush was "A plan is not a litany of complaints." :D
 

oddjob

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I knew if I didnt tune in he would do better according to his supporters..ya'll can thank me later after the election. :cool:
 

thedude7803

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The one thing I notice is Kerry sure has lots of plans for that money he is going to raise by rolling back the tax cuts on the richest 1% of Americans. What does he keep saying, $89 million last year in tax breaks for them? That $89 million was going to pay for a $1.2 tillion health care plan in the town hall debate. Now it is also going to fix social security according to last nights debate. How can anyone take this @$$-clown seriously? Kerry is going to spend trillions of dollars on health care, education, the environment, add two units to the military, increase the pay for servicemen and women, etc...and he is going to balance the budget and pay down the deficit by half. Oh yeah, and did I mention he is going to do all of this without raising taxes on the middle class. Anyone that checks the Kerry/Edwards box on the ballot in a couple of weeks is simply delusional. There is no way around it.<br /><br />By the way, my favorite part from last night was when they were talking about immigration, and Kerry said it is a problem and I will fix it. HOW?????
 

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He is the first person that I have seen with all these "plans" but as of yet has not said what they are.
 

mikeandronda

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Pointer that was one of the best posts I have read in a long long time. :)
 

POINTER94

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Perhaps a bit overblown but says what Bush has a tough time putting to words. I recieved this and thought it was worth sharing:<br /><br />written by Mathew Manweller...<br />___________________________________________<br /><br /> <br />Central Washington University political science professor...<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />"Election determines fate of nation"<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />"In that this will be my last column before the presidential election, there will be no sarcasm, no attempts at witty repartee. The topic is too serious, and the stakes are too high.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />This November we will vote in the only election during our lifetime that will truly matter. Because America is at a once-in-a-generation crossroads, more than an election hangs in the balance. Down one path lies retreat, abdication and a reign of ambivalence. Down the other lies a nation that is aware of its past and accepts the daunting obligation its future demands.<br /> <br />If we choose poorly, the consequences will echo through the next 50 years of history. If we, in a spasm of frustration, turn out the current occupant of the White House, the message to the world and ourselves will be two-fold.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />First, we will reject the notion that America can do big things.<br /> <br />Once a nation that tamed a frontier, stood down the Nazis and stood upon the moon, we will announce to the world that bringing democracy to the Middle East is too big of a task for us. But more significantly, we will signal to future presidents that as voters, we are unwilling to tackle difficult challenges, preferring caution to boldness, embracing the mediocrity that has characterized other civilizations. The defeat of President Bush will send a chilling message to future presidents who may need to make difficult, yet unpopular decisions. America has always been a nation that rises to the demands of history regardless of the costs or appeal. If we turn away from that legacy, we turn away from who we are.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Second, we inform every terrorist organization on the globe that the lesson of Somalia was well learned. In Somalia we showed terrorists that you don't need to defeat America on the battlefield when you can defeat them in the newsroom. They learned that a wounded America can become a defeated America.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Twenty-four-hour news stations and daily tracing polls will do the heavy lifting, turning a cut into a fatal blow. Except that Iraq is Somalia times 10. The election of John Kerry will serve notice to every terrorist in every cave that the soft underbelly of American power is the timidity of American voters. Terrorists will know that a steady stream of grizzly photos for CNN is all you need to break the will of the American people. Our own self-doubt will take it from there. Bin Laden will recognize that he can topple any American administration without setting foot on the homeland.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />It is said that America's W.W.II generation is its 'greatest generation'. But my greatest fear is that it will become known as America's 'last generation.' Born in the bleakness of the Great Depression and hardened in the fire of WW II, they may be the last American generation that understands the meaning of duty, honor and sacrifice. It is difficult to admit, but I know these terms are spoken with only hollow detachment by many (but not all) in my generation. Too many citizens today mistake 'living in America' as 'being an American.' But America has always been more of an idea than a place. When you sign on, you do more than buy real estate. You accept a set of values and responsibilities.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />This November, my generation, which has been absent too long, must grasp the obligation that comes with being an American, or fade into the oblivion they may deserve.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />I believe that 100 years from now historians will look back at the election of 2004 and see it as the decisive election of our century. Depending on the outcome, they will describe it as the moment America joined the ranks of ordinary nations; or they will describe it as the moment the prodigal sons and daughters of the greatest generation accepted their burden as caretakers of the City on the Hill."<br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Mathew Manweller
 

hayhauler

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Ladyfish, I agree with you on the best quote of the night. Kerry has said for months that he has a plan for everything, Bush nailed him. All his plans are litanies of complaints about the way things have been, without a single reasonable idea for how to make things better. His only plan is not to be George Bush, and my only plan is for Kerry not to be president.
 

Stumpys

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I thought Bush won that hands downs. Kerry seem to be on the defense the whole time, and what Kerry said about Cheney's daughter was just uncalled for.
 
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