cylinder wall gouged up

pauper

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My 1989 125hp Force L drive was running on 3 cylinders so I did a compression test, got about 150 lbs in 3 cylinders and about 50 in the bad one. Took the head off and found a big scratch in the cylinder wall,also the top of the piston was all dented up . Looks like a ring may have busted. If I bore it .030 will the cylinder wall be thick enough or will I have to bore it out and put a sleeve in it ? Also , can I just bore the one cylinder to .030 and still run standard pistons in the other 3? Of course this happened when my brother-in-law borrowed the boat !!
 

baxtr

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Re: cylinder wall gouged up

you can do just the one cylinder yes, usually around 75 per hole to bore, .030 should be ok over standard
 

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Re: cylinder wall gouged up

Take it to a machine shop and have the tech look at it. .030 is a lot.If you go right to .030 then there is no more after that.All the ones I have rebuilt have been ok with .010 over.Unless it's a real bad score.Once you get past .010 then you start in to possibly re-jetting,then running lean on that cylinder.That one went bad already and you don't want to give it any reason to go again.Jerry
 

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Re: cylinder wall gouged up

thanks, hopefully I wont have to bore it over .010 or .020. I need to get it apart so I can take the block to a machine shop. I'm trying to get the intake manifold off now. I have all the bolts out that I can see but it wont budge. Are there bolts under the carbs that that I'm not seeing ? I see somebody else on this forum is having the same problem .
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: cylinder wall gouged up

The factory gasket has a self-setting glue on it and it practically welds the parts together. You need to get some sort of bar or screwdriver behind a protrusion and either pry or hammer them apart. It won't come easy. The gaskets will be destroyed and you will need to scrape all surfaces clean. They are relatively simple ones so you have the choice of buying them at radical prices or making your own from 1/32 gasket paper sold in auto stores.

You can bore a single cylinder to .030 over and the increased displacement is so small that the engine will never notice it. HOWEVER---Be aware that the factory recommends reboring any cylinder that is worn .002 over or out of round or barrel shaped by more than .002.

If you do not do this, the engine will still perform satisfactory but you will not achieve the full potential of the engine. So be sure to have the machine shop mike every cylinder. Then, the choice is yours.

Also be aware that the factory recommends a maximum overbore of .030 yet Wiseco sells pistons .040 over.--Even if there is no more meat for an overbore, you still have the option of re-sleeving for about a couple of hundred each cylinder--but don't take this job to a regular machine shop, take it to an outboard guy who has done it before. At 200 a hole, it still beats 1200 for buying a new bare block.

Also, ask the machine shop to slightly chamfer the ports inside the cylinder; It will not change the timing and will significantly reduce the possibility of ring catching. This is a place where you can do it yourself with a rat tailed file or a Dremel and save a bit of money if they don't automatically do it.
 
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