Control rod seal and copper ring for drive shaft and boot

[Milo1105]

How would I go about replacing the seal on control rod shaft because previous owner rtv siliconed it and when I pulled lower the rubber boot to driveshaft and ring wasn’t on it but upon further inspection the boot was just inside and I can’t locate the copper ring , my hands are to big to fit in the hole

 

[Milo1105]

Also for details it’s a 1990 force 50hp

 

[topgun3690]

https://forums.iboats.com/threads/‘92-force-40-shift-shaft-seal.766074/ This thread from a couple days ago talks about the shift shaft seal removal.....

 

[jerryjerry05]

The missing ring?? No biggie, just lube the splines and slide the boot over them.
No grease on top of the shaft.
There's a slotted screw on the side of the nosecone, DON'T remove as it's a pivot point and can be a B%$#H to replace.
If you do remove it then the seals a lot easier to get at.

 

[Milo1105]

The missing ring?? No biggie, just lube the splines and slide the boot over them.
No grease on top of the shaft.
There's a slotted screw on the side of the nosecone, DON'T remove as it's a pivot point and can be a B%$#H to replace.
If you do remove it then the seals a lot easier to get at.

Jerry, in the picture I posted of the control shaft with a little of the red rtv silicone is that the seal around the shaft or is that just metal? I’m pretty ignorant to this

 

[Milo1105]

The missing ring?? No biggie, just lube the splines and slide the boot over them.
No grease on top of the shaft.
There's a slotted screw on the side of the nosecone, DON'T remove as it's a pivot point and can be a B%$#H to replace.
If you do remove it then the seals a lot easier to get at.

I was light touching the silicone to remove it and felt like it was metal instead of a rubber seal

 

[topgun3690]

New shift shaft seal......

 

[Milo1105]

New shift shaft seal......
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Ok yea that kinda looks like what’s around the shifter

 

[topgun3690]

That's what needs to come out.....did u look at that link I sent.....jerry tells how to take it out.

 

[Milo1105]

That's what needs to come out.....did u look at that link I sent.....jerry tells how to take it out.

I did, this forum and you guys are freaking awesome ! Next question is where does everyone source the parts, lot of pages I check say they are unavailable

 

[topgun3690]

Ebay is good for NLA and NOS parts.....use a site like Crowley marine or marineengine.com to get part numbers....they have parts diagrams and sell some parts too. But the discontinued parts can usually be found on ebay.

 

[topgun3690]

Franz marine is another good source....not cheap but he may have what you need. Mastertech marine is another.....

 

[Milo1105]

Is this not metal fellas ? I tapped it and makes a distinct metal noice

 

[topgun3690]

It's metal.....the seal is on the inside, kind of like a wheel hub seal.....the one I posted in the bag....it's metal too.....

 

[Milo1105]

It's metal.....the seal is on the inside, kind of like a wheel hub seal.....the one I posted in the bag....it's metal too.....

So just pry the beauty out and pop the new one in? Chances of me over seating it and it falling deeper into the lower unit ?

 

[topgun3690]

This is maybe a better pic......just make it flush with the housing....like the one in there already.....